If by "wrist Wrap" you mean a hasty sling configuration, yes, it's quite possible, and all things considered (loop sling configuration) I prefer a leather sling.

The treated cotton and nylon may be better for wear/survivability in field conditions though..

I hope others chime in with their thoughts...

 

I'm not sure what you mean by wrist wrap. Is that the "hasty sling" method. For what it's worth, I like the leather slings over the cotton sling. I use them in competition. Using it in a comp is a little different than I used my cotton web sling when in the service. It takes some getting used to and takes a couple of range trips to get them broken in. I have Les Tam slings. To aid in breaking it in I lightly oiled it and I mean lightly. Then I used the back of a folding chair and rocked the sling back and forth like you would use a rag to shine your shoes. It still took a couple of trips to get it broke in.
What do you mean by the wrist wrap?

 

Sorry for the terminology, Its only been 30 years since some range instructor taught me. Though the habits are still with me the terminology escapes me. I looked up "hasty sling" and what I am talking about is close but a little different----

I am right handed----so I take my left hand and wrap it through the sling and trap the sling between my left hand and the forward end of the stock, which allows me to adjust tension by sliding my hand up or down the forward end of the stock. The aft end of the sling stays attached to the rifle, not my upper arm.

 

Nothing wrong with the canvas. I prefer them for field usage. The leather is optimal for position shooting, but for all other uses I prefer USGI canvas web slings. Less bulky, less weight, etc.

No problem with using what you know. If you want a leather get a Turner NM sling.

 

I'm a fan of the USGI web slings myself. I do not shoot my rifles in comp anymore, so the web into works perfect for my uses and its inexpensive.
I also find them quicker to adjust. However, the leather USGI style sling, once broken in, is a more comfortable sling to use in competition.
No one sling will serve all purposes or scenarios equally.

 

Roger that. The guys made some good points above you may want to consider when making your decision. To answer your question now that I understand the method. The leather slings work well like that as well as how they are used in competitions.
I have both types of slings on my rifles, I personally prefer the 1907 sling, what we are calling a leather sling here. Turner slings, Les Tam slings, JHW slings and rob brown slings are the most popular 1907 type slings on the market. Les Tam slings are my personal favorite. However, he work out of his house in Hawaii himself and he has quite a large back order right now. He will personize the sling for you with your initials, if you were in a branch of the armed forces he will put a logo with the name like army or marines on the sling stamped in, and you have the choice of parkerized steel or brass frogs. He will also ask if you want your keepers sewn or riveted, most everybody I know goes with the hand sewn keepers. Another option is what is called a three strap keeper. It's a little large and obviously enables you to put three sections of the sling through the keeper. He uses very good leather, I have the name downstairs in the workshop if you desire to know.
Turner has outstanding slings as well, you may want to consider a biothane no stretch material which they offer. Many people use and love the turned slings. JHW, John Wheller I believe makes a nice sling as well, the only drawback I had when I ordered one from him was he was out of stock on leather and hasn't planned on making an order until later that winter. I would imagine coin was tight and he places his orders to coincide with the beginning of rifle competition season. Definitely worth the call though, he makes a nice sling as well. Rob or Ron Brown, was trained by Les Tam. From what Les told me, he went out to Hawaii to get trained and is now open for business. I believe he has been at it for several years now. He is often mentioned when people ask for opinions on whoes 1907 sling is quality. I would stay away from the SAI 1907 sling. I had one and the keepers started to slip. I may have put too much oil on that one. Les uses neatsfoot oil on his and lets them sun dry in the Hawaiian sunshine, he hardly puts any on. Many folks say to stay away from neatsfoot oil, I have been told it degrades the leather. I picked up a small 1 ounce or so tub of JHW's magic propriatary sling treatment. The recepie is a double secret lol. A little bit goes a long way. If you have a saddle shop in your neck of the woods, I'd imagine they would have something for sale but saddle shops around we're I live cater for the wealthy and that reflects in the prices. No cowboys around Long Island, just the rich an snooty that buy horses for their spoiled children so they can get together at the Sunday social and rave about how well Susie jumped over the visions puddle of water. That about sums it up when it comes to the good old 1907 sling. If your not in a hurry, I would give Les a call and see what his wait time is. Right now, I'd imagine it around 8 months to a year. They have been growing in popularity and of course the Obama craze. Nothing at all wrong with any of the choices that I spoke about. Hope this helps

 

Nothing at all wrong with any of the choices that I spoke about. Hope this helps

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Helps a great deal, as did the suggestions of others.

All Appreciated,

Bob

 

There are many types of slings for the Rifles..

Take a look at this page.

There are so many.
http://www.rollanet.org/~stacyw/US_Slings.htm

I am looking for the M1923 Sling. Which is Canvas, but it's set up like the M1907 leather sling.

I am using the hard green Nylon sling now. And I like it for field usage.

 

Talking Good slings and good hardware.....

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Pic #1. Brass frogs were used from the start of 1907 sling production up to mid WWII when brass bacame short, they measure .120 thick and were blackened. These frogs are old and well used as the blackening is gone and there very dull. I do not know where they originated there unmarked but I suspect there were suplied to Rock Island as they made alot of leather items for Uncle Sam.

Pic #2. These frogs are steel and painted black there stamped with a circle 'B' they come from Waterberry. Waterberry has been making steel frogs sense WWII. There .110 in thickness. Turner slings use the same frogs and there parked black maganize, Brownells also uses the same frogs on there comp plus sling and there just painted black. The leather is much better with the Turner.

Pic #3/4. Are from a unknown WWII contractor, there also .110 in thickness and are zinc parked, the ends of the frogs are very sharp/pointy no I didn't sharpen them thats the way they were you can still see some of park on there edges. My Grandfather gave me his old sling that he used in the Marine Corp from when it was issued too him untell he retired, the leather was all black, cracked and rotted from storage so I salvaged the frogs.
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Pic #5 These frogs came off a cheap MRT marked sling from Cathy Ent the leather was white and very dry right out of the bag, this sling had no year stamp just the MRT. The frogs are .099 thick, very thin compared too the older frogs. There were blued in finnish and prone too rusting quickly. The holes for the copper rivets are all drilled cattywhompuss. I had them sandblasted to remove the rust and the blueing I just haven't had them reparked yet. Not all US Gov't contracted slings are created equal. I have seen a few contract slings that used Waterberry ('B') frogs, I just don't remember who they were.

Pic# 6 are the same copper rivets used from the entire production, you can get them from Tandy Leather I don't remember the size but #4 sticks in my head. The copper is dead soft and the shank needs too be trimmed in lenth so there not as pronounced above the body of the frog.

 

I have one of these (which may not be what you are wanting exactly) but it does the job:

http://www.jarheadtop.com/Slings.htm

Look for the Jim owens No Pulse

 

Bob,

That's exactly the way that I like to shoot.

For My M1A and Center Fire's:

http://www.montanagunslings.com/1.25-inch-Brown-Chicago-Screw-Model-NO-SWIVELS.html

And for My Lite weight rifle's, RimFire, etc:

http://www.montanagunslings.com/1-inch-Brown-Chicago-Screw-Model-NO-SWIVELS.html

Not Military,, but I've got these slings on all my Rifle's. Quick Adjust, No Buckle's to Clang, Bridle Leather that feels so good,, but Strong. Are available with or without Swivels.

So Simple and The Price is Right.

Joe

 

Bob,

That's exactly the way that I like to shoot.

For My M1A and Center Fire's:

http://www.montanagunslings.com/1.25-inch-Brown-Chicago-Screw-Model-NO-SWIVELS.html

And for My Lite weight rifle's, RimFire, etc:

http://www.montanagunslings.com/1-inch-Brown-Chicago-Screw-Model-NO-SWIVELS.html

Not Military,, but I've got these slings on all my Rifle's. Quick Adjust, No Buckle's to Clang, Bridle Leather that feels so good,, but Strong. Are available with or without Swivels.

So Simple and The Price is Right.

Joe

Thanks Joe, Very helpful--also glad to hear that someone understood what I was talking about. I am not always good at explaining myself.

These slings also look like that they will look good on the M1AUSN2.

Thanks again for the tip.

Bob

 

Ya gotta break in the leather sling like you do shoes, I love the leather on the M1A, strangely enough I love the nylon on my AR's, I think its from 8 years in teh Army using nylon on my M 16. I have had leather on my M1a since the day I bought it, I was so frikken poor at the time it was the only accessory I could afford for the next 10 years (4 kids later).

 

Putting it out there, spent the weekend at Appleseed using my All Weather (Biothane) sling from Turner. Absolutely loved it. Think I prefer it over my Turner leather sling to be honest.


Leather is nice once you get used to it. I use my web slings for the smaller rifles (.22, etc.)

 

RWillie,

If you go with the Montana,, I don't recommend putting anything on a Montana to soften them up. Might cause the slip knot to slip.

They are made with thick leather,, and will feel pretty stiff new, but they'll limber up pretty quick,, useing the M1A. Sort of like New Jean's,, ie they're pretty stiff new,, but after they get worn a few time's, limber up good.

I can't really say as to how well they look on an M1A,, Beauty is in the eye's of the beholder,, but a Montana has been on my gun's for several year's now,, and none have complained includeing the M1A...USA2

Joe

 

Being an old competition shooter I tend to prefer leather M1907 slings on my service rifles. I do not apply Needsfoot Oil or any other preservative and only rarely clean them with saddle soap. Oils do make the leather softer, but also cause the leather to stretch. The leather will soften with use anyway.

Leather slings may develop cracks over time, but those in frequent use will hold up for years without cracking. Lack of use leads to the leather drying out and that is what causes the cracking.

Keepers can be a problem. Sometimes the stitching will come appart and keepers are prone to stretching. Many users insert three layers of sling though the keepers which forces them to stretch out of shape. When the keepers stretch they don't hold the sling tight enough to prevent it from slipping loose once it's adjusted. Most of the stress, from using the leather sling in position shooting, is on the keepers. It's a good idea to have a couple of spare keepers for replacements. They should fit snuggly around two layers of the sling.

The National Guard trains it's shooters to install the M1907 leather sling unside down. That is, with the frogs on the stock side rather than the outside. The reason for this is the sling can be put on and adjusted somewhat easier than in the traditional manor. It's also easier to get off your arm. One problem with this is the rivets in the frogs may scratch the stock. I beat them flat with a small hammer to prevent stock damage.