Silhouette unlimited standing class pistol shooters have been using rifle scopes on small bore and big bore pistols for more than 25 years. I wonder what they'd have to say about that.

 

the ATF is actually trying to say or working on to include the old Broom handles that take detachable stocks , and P08's that take them will fall under the SBR ruling

 

Thank GOD the injunction was granted on this horse sh it.

 

Their primary objective is to usurp the 2nd Amendment from any and all angles at any cost. So it makes perfect sense they make up laws on the fly. That agency always comes to mind when I hear the term banana republic.

 

the head of the ATF testified in Congress once the Brace was removed from the pistol it was legal. But now we have this nonsense abut what type of sights are on the gun. Seems like deetlebach or was it beetlesnap has given everyone a get out of jail card since apparently even he does not understand the law.

 

Very interesting that they have lost repeatedly in courts, and have multiple injunctions against them at the moment, but continue to grasp at straws. Clearly they have no fear of losing big in the courts over this for some reason. Maybe it's because they'll just ignore the ruling, or maybe they really can't comprehend losing at all.

 

Very interesting that they have lost repeatedly in courts, and have multiple injunctions against them at the moment, but continue to grasp at straws. Clearly they have no fear of losing big in the courts over this for some reason. Maybe it's because they'll just ignore the ruling, or maybe they really can't comprehend losing at all.

It all Joe Biden and the DEM party that is pushing this agenda.

 

Most Americans actually stood together on this one and gave a big middle finger to the ATF and Biden on this one. Compliance was like 2%. LOL

 

I complied and got rid of the brace.

 

I wonder how the Alphabets would rule on a mounted dot on an "AR Pistol".... Hmmmm

 

i have Vortex Venoms on mine anyway so im good there

 

So, my LER, long eye relief, scope is still acceptable on my Blackhawk?

At least for today?

 

Braces on pistol silhouette…..you guys are funny.

 

Its not about stupidity like they would have you think. They know full well exactly what theyre doing and why.

 

When a law is deliberately written so that it can not be understood, it gives grounds for it to be struck down.

 

All that said, what is legal is a basket of fog. Now we don't know if any sights on
a AR pistol are legal. Just as well direct any AR pistol with a barrel containing a bore
is a SBR.

Lot of folks just want to know the law but it seem too hard to find that answer.

 

All that said, what is legal is a basket of fog. Now we don't know if any sights on
a AR pistol are legal. Just as well direct any AR pistol with a barrel containing a bore
is a SBR.

Lot of folks just want to know the law but it seem too hard to find that answer.

The red dots sights seem to be good to go.
But joining FPC, GOA, and there is one more out there for getting injunctive relief gives one another layer of protection. As long as you do not show your gun on face book and the brace is removed, i doubt that anything will be happening. There are likely a lot of people that still have their braces on the gun.
Has anyone been arrested so far for just possession.

 

I thought you had to be a member of GOA at the time of the filing to be covered by the injunction? If not could I join now and put all my braces back on?

 

There are 3 or 4 attorneys on YouTube that explain stuff as well as GOA themselves.

Listen to what they say and form your own opinion

 

In my understanding of how these goons work, if you throw enough crap at a wall, some may stick..they dont care, have no honor or shame. But they do have an unlimited budget for litigation. Whereas groups opposing these nazis have limited resources, they will just steamroll, spend your tax $$$ to curtail the freedoms these repugnant tools took an oath to defend

 

Here ARs without brace or shoulder stock being used by criminals in North Carolina.
Other than the lack of sights it appears that the thugs are being ATF compliant since they are using the AR pistols as pistols with two handed extended gripping. No one appeared to be seriously injured. One of the barrels seems to be 16 inches, but should still be legal with an overall length of 26 inches plus.
Bullets appear to be fired from inside store shown in captured still of them blowing the glass into vapor or more likely a fume.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong (happens frequently) if you buy an ar15 rifle and change the upper and buffer tube for a pistol brace. Isn't that still considered a short barrel rifle since the lower receiver was originally bought in rifle configuration?

 

Yes, that's a no no

 

edited I dont need the strife in my life. Deep breath.

 

edited I dont need the strife in my life. Deep breath.

 

That would be very useful to shoot the snakes around here......at times finding 410 shells are like finding hens teeth.

 

Jack: I'm sorry if what I've said about the 410 barrel is offensive (shooting snakes) I do apologize. They eat our chicken and duck eggs. Have bitten our live stock protection dogs. The guineas aren't able to do their job getting rid of really big snakes. And I do have a Winchester Model 41. 410 single shot 2 1/2" only, circa 1920 or so for that reason.

 

I still don't understand how closing a loophole to have a non-registered SBR is meltdown material.
Yeah, the ATF sucks and tends to overreach. Could have left pistol calibers alone etc. but a 7.62 NATO "pistol" is BS, and everyone knows it. Even 556 is obnoxious.
I still agree they are trying to fold up the second amendment but this particular ruling ain't it. It was a "work around" for an NFA clause, if we are being honest.
But in true ATF fashion they will squeeze it until they go beyond their own original scope.

 

you must be new to this , we are already fighting a stacked deck , so we are in a give a inch lose a mile situation , its imperative that every battle is a war , look how long it took to reverse the bump stock fiasco and i think bump stocks are ridiculous , its not just about what they are saying they are taking away , its the ramificarions each loss imposes on their future efforts , they will use it as a blueprint to tell you to mark the day of the week in your underwear if we let them

 

Oops, double post.