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Smith Enterprise M14 Auction Surprise

6.5K views 64 replies 38 participants last post by  bjonrso308  
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I just picked up a Smith Enterprise M14 #2xx from an auction a few weeks ago. The two Auction Pictures were not adequate to tell how good or bad a rifles condition is And the description is adequate to give only cursory information. Imagine my surprise when I opened the rifles box to see if my purchase was excellent, good, average, or terrible, to find an unfired Smith Ent serial number in the 200 range. The stock is fiberglass military and in adequate shape, the magazine was mil. surplus, hooded match sights and the finish 99%+.

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This gun appears unfired as there is no wear on the feed ramp, op rod, or rails. Even the original grease appears undisturbe. I am absolutely thrilled with this purchase but I have a problem. I bought it to shoot and I’m not willing to destroy a collectable rifle with a range trip. I have enough rifles to entertain myself so what to do. Keep it and shoot it, keep it as a safe Queen, or find a collector that would appreciate it.

Let me know what you think.
 
#8 · (Edited)
It’s a commercial copy of an M14 and thus not an antique or a collectible USGI weapon. In contrast, if it were an original 1960-1964 USGI, mint condition, class III legally transferrable M14 worth maybe $40k+, I’d be hesitant to fire it. Commercial copy? Just use it. It won’t lose much if any value. My 2cts since you asked.

Here’s the kind if rifle that needs to stay unfired:
 
#15 ·
A lot of good advice given here and I’m leaning to shooting it. I am not familiar enough with Ron’s guns but I would expect a gun with serial number in the 200s is a pretty rare gun. Again I’m ignorant but won’t be forever.

now it being stripped down, cleaned and lubed. The barrel was surprisingly filthy for a gun that appears unfired. I would guess an oiled barrel left in a safe for 40 years would look something like this one did.

I do appreciate all the comments and hope they continue. I could use a lot of background on the Smith M14
 
#17 ·
I agree with Phil.I don't believe it was from the run of receivers from the 80's.
I have 3 early ones from that era and the Font is totally different. What I do know is i have serial number 004 from the last batch they made not that long ago and the Font is identical to this rifle the OP posted.
It's your gun but I don't think firing it is gonna make a bit of difference at this point.
 
#18 ·
The world out there doesn't care about M1A/M14 clone rifles ** , so that rifle being unfired and ending up sold out of your estate proves you lost enjoying the rifle on the range. Save it for who.... go shoot it and enjoy it. It will be here long after you are gone and hopefully live another life at the range.

** Sad note to the times we live , shooters adverse to recoil, got to have optics to shoot and maybe shoot all the way to 50 yds.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I have 3 early ones from that era and the Font is totally different. What I do know is i have serial number 004 from the last batch they made not that long ago and the Font is identical to this rifle the OP posted
To that point, here’s a Smith Enterprise receiver built into a match rifle in June 1991. Note the font on the heel. This rifle is collectible due to it being built at PWS for the late Pat Rogers, who was on the USMC shooting team back in the early 1990s. I agree the OP rifle was likely made in the late batch from the 201Xs.

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#25 ·
A lot of great info. Since it’s stripped down I could list the components for your knowledge banks and 1911 fans.

It does have a milled received evidenced by the crisp cuts elevation sight cuts.
  • NM barrel (looks unfired yet there was a lot of gunk in the barrel that looked like old oily dust.
  • NM Sights (Rear hooded 595 and front NM labled
  • TRW Bolt, Op Rod, Trigger
  • Sadlak spring guide.
  • SE Rings 30mm
  • US Property marked Scope Mount.

The confusing clue for being a newer build was the barrel condition. This gunk to a lot of time to make it in the barrel. The rest of the gun is in mint and unfired condition. Is there any rhyme or reason to their serial number process. It would seem that a 250 serial number comes before 103,xxx.

Thanks for taking time to share your knowledge of this interesting rifle.
 
#33 ·
How many of those M14 1960s rifles do you have?

Just asking.
I don't own any original M14s...the closest I came was a parts kit from a complete 1962 NM rifle that was de-activated before I found it. The receiver is now 4 pieces of scrap metal, so that doesn't count. All my SAI M1As are just civilian copies (replicas) and I like them all, but they ain't 1960s era USGI M14s. I can't afford a real class III transferrable USGI M14, those are reserved for wealthy collectors.
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