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Who made this muzzle device?

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Just curious. It's on a SA pre ban I bought a few weeks ago, my first. (Yay for me) :mrgreen:

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My guess is Smith Enterprise out of Tempe, AZ.

Theo
skweezer,
congrats on your first M1a. now you have a battle rifle.
that flash hider looks to me like a Springfield cast repro, and someone put the hacksaw to it. cut it off to make it look like a vortex that smith ent. makes. I kinda like it.
rooster33
Looks nothing more than a standard FS that's been cut down.
darkest2000 said:
Looks nothing more than a standard FS that's been cut down.
Yep, that's what it is alright.



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rooster33 said:
skweezer,
congrats on your first M1a. now you have a battle rifle.
that flash hider looks to me like a Springfield cast repro, and someone put the hacksaw to it. cut it off to make it look like a vortex that smith ent. makes. I kinda like it.
rooster33
Ditto.

A poor mans Vortex!! :wink:

SKBY..
Hmmm, I dunno, is it just me or did anyone else notice there's 5 splines with the bottom one being the fattest and the other 4 being evenly spaced as well as the same size??? I don't think you could get any GI or repro to look like that. Maybe a customized Poly or Norinco fake flash suppressor...
NoExpert said:
Hmmm, I dunno, is it just me or did anyone else notice there's 5 splines with the bottom one being the fattest and the other 4 being evenly spaced as well as the same size??? I don't think you could get any GI or repro to look like that. Maybe a customized Poly or Norinco fake flash suppressor...
The Chinese flash suppressors have the slots cut at equal intervals all the way around.

The bottom of the USGI & Reproductions are not slotted on the bottom of the flash suppressor.

SKBY.
skullboy said:
The Chinese flash suppressors have the slots cut at equal intervals all the way around.

The bottom of the USGI & Reproductions are not slotted on the bottom of the flash suppressor.

SKBY.
They're not slotted at the top either... Nor would they have even spacing if you added a slot in the top... That's why I mentioned the "FAKE" chinese FH's that from what I've heard have no slots, holes or anything except a hole for the barrel to thread into and a hole for the bullet to exit. Could be something someone whipped up while bored and working in a machine shop too. Either way it looks pretty cool, almost like the Smith Vortex...
NoExpert said:
They're not slotted at the top either... Nor would they have even spacing if you added a slot in the top... That's why I mentioned the "FAKE" chinese FH's that from what I've heard have no slots, holes or anything except a hole for the barrel to thread into and a hole for the bullet to exit. Could be something someone whipped up while bored and working in a machine shop too. Either way it looks pretty cool, almost like the Smith Vortex...
Yes, some of the some of the older Chinese flash suppressors were solid with no cutouts.There are still a few up here in Canada if you look hard enough.

The current production Norinco flash suppressors are just as I describe in my previous post, and just as good as any M14 flash suppressor out there.The Chinese flash suppressors are already bored to National Match specs from the factory!!! :D

The Cut down flash suppressor pictured is probably a reproduction.I currently own a Norinco M14(manufactured in 2000) and it is vented all the way around.

SKBY. :D
If it's a cut down, who ever did it had a lathe. You can see the tooling marks on the squared off portion, and on the outside chamfer, also you can see where the bayonet lug was milled off.

I see people talking about grinding the lug off and I was wondering if it was because it was hardened, or just an easy way to remove it without a mill. Either way, whomever did it, did a nice job.

I was thinking it kinda looked like a shortened standard one, but I wasn't sure about the wider bottom prong, if it was supposed to work like a compensator, or just to keep from blasting up chunks of sod when shooting prone :)
Looks like a cut down and neutered USGI to me. The lug has to be removed to get the gas plug off and this short is redundant anyway, a bayonet won't fit. Or maybe the SA reproduction.

It's all a matter of scale. USGI has 5 cuts and will yield 5 prongs when the length is reduced to about an inch.

-- Chuck
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