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I'm sure you'll get a lot of opinions. I chose the direct connect flash suppressor from SEI, couldn't be happier. They also make an excellent direct connect brake that you use the regular front sight. I like the hooded gas lock front sight better.
My Bush ended up at 39" long, a SOCOM is 37.25" long. If you like short this is the way to go.
My Bush ended up at 39" long, a SOCOM is 37.25" long. If you like short this is the way to go.
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I'm converting my Scout into a Bush rifle (removing the Scout mount and installing a vented USGI handguard) and I'm researching flash suppressors as well. I really like the idea of getting the rifle down to 39"! That would be a handy length for hunting in dense foliage! I will have to look into the SEI direct connect FS.
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I've been very pleased with the SEI USCG brake too, though I've found the splines to be consistently somewhat loose in the barrel's grooves; peening the grooves fixed that. A close second is LRB's proprietary brake, which, being longer, also gives the rifle more of it's original profile.
But if I had it to do all over again, I'd go with the brake from the group buy 82nd ABN put together.
The one I have reduced recoil the most of any brake I've tried, is noticeably quieter than even a FS, let alone a brake, and seems to have improved accuracy, though I can't figure out why.
other options.
I know this isn't a muzzle break, but YHM makes a phantom flash suppressor for the 14. You can get one with the front sight or one without (if you had a gasblock front sight per say). I think they are discontinuing it though so you would probably have to move fast if you were interested. Here are some links:
-without front sight-
http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/product378.html
-with front sight-
http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/product377.html
Good luck with your purchase. DI2
I know this isn't a muzzle break, but YHM makes a phantom flash suppressor for the 14. You can get one with the front sight or one without (if you had a gasblock front sight per say). I think they are discontinuing it though so you would probably have to move fast if you were interested. Here are some links:
-without front sight-
http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/product378.html
-with front sight-
http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/product377.html
Good luck with your purchase. DI2
I need a few of those.
I've been very pleased with the SEI USCG brake too, though I've found the splines to be consistently somewhat loose in the barrel's grooves; peening the grooves fixed that. A close second is LRB's proprietary brake, which, being longer, also gives the rifle more of it's original profile.
But if I had it to do all over again, I'd go with the brake from the group buy 82nd ABN put together.
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The one I have reduced recoil the most of any brake I've tried, is noticeably quieter than even a FS, let alone a brake, and seems to have improved accuracy, though I can't figure out why.
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If we're really nice, and enough others are interested, perhaps he'll start another group buy.GI2
I'll keep my fingers crossed. Problem is they are SPENDY, and I have several rifles to stick them on.
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Me too, but I'm that impressed with them.GI6
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I'm glad I got in on the group buy now for sure. What do the others listed cost - Surefire, SEI direct-connect etc?
thanks for the responses, i really liked the se uscg muzzle break, but when i found out i can buy the m14 DC and not have to use the splines, castle nut or set screws that did it for me. hopefully it is as effective as the usgc. i looked at their website and it seems to me i also have to buy the GLFS-D-18 to attach the front sight to, do i understand this correctly?
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It sounds like you do. Be sure to tell them your barrel length so they can adjust the GLFS. I chose the hooded one but you can get one that uses the regular front sight also. They're good people, ask them any questions so all the parts are correct.
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Ok you talked me into it. I'll talk to Hawk and see about reposting the buy. I knew they were good but had nothing to compare them to other than a FH and a SEI CGMB that never made it on the rifle. I like the clean lines of the direct connects as well but I think we have a winning combination with this JP/Delta thing. I thought it was pretty darn quiet as well but thought it was just me. I'm glad to see the reviews! Hope to see more members talk about them as they get installed.
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JP Rifles/Delta P Design Tactical Compensator Review
It occurs to me that my review of Warren's brake, which I posted on his group buy thread, might fit in here, too:
Test bed: SAI Super Match, Douglas SS barrel, USGI Synthetic stock opened up for rear lug.
Visually, the brake is a work of art. Finish is perfect, overall look is very intimidating. GI6 Installation was easy. Splines were snug in the barrel grooves but not tight enough to require a rubber mallet. No rotation of the brake is possible because of the snug spline fit but since the splines are round rather than elongated as on typical brakes or FS's, up-down and/or side to side movement is still possible. On my sample, the castle nut could only be inserted from one side. The back section of the brake where the muzzle inserts (i.e., forward of the window the castle nut fits into) has a shallow collar with a central depression. The collar is slightly larger in diameter than the muzzle on the Douglas barrel so some play is possible, raising some concerns that alignment could shift with use since the round splines can't contribute to overall alignment. Tests with an SAI alignment gauge show that with the brake pushed to the right on my barrel, the gauge comes pretty close to the front hole in the brake (but YMWV). The tip of the castle nut set screw is broader than the standard set screw so alignment of any given castle nut notch becomes more critical. I found the easiest method was to take the set screw out, turn the rifle over, and look through the hole to align the notch, then put the screw back in.
At the range, a bipod and rear bag were used from a bench with a 6-24X scope @ 100 yds. First, there was no indication of misalignment whatever. Second, there was a pronounced shift in POI from the zero used with the NM FS installed by SAI (4" down and 3" right). Third, there was practically no recoil, certainly less than an AR, which is saying something. Fourth, and this was quite a surprise, it was relatively quiet! The USCG brake tends to be very loud, and this seemed even quieter than the NM FS that preceded it. Finally, accuracy seemed to improve. While the fouling shots with PPU 145 gr FMJ didn't look all that great (about 3" for ten rounds), Radway Green delivered a bit over 2" for seven rounds, and Federal Gold Medal Match 168 gr consistently made ragged holes with multiple rounds (e.g. 4 rounds clustered in 1/4" with the fifth about an inch away which was no doubt my fault). That ammo was factory seconds due to accuracy, so I expect Federal first quality will be capable of much better results than this shooter can deliver. Perhaps most surprising was Sellier & Bellot 147 gr FMJ, which put 5 rounds in a 1" square.
The Super Match didn't start to deliver its potential until SAI fixed the wandering op rod guide and then I put it in the USGI Synthetic. But today's results are the best it's ever delivered and I think at least part of that is due to 82nd ABN's brake! This is definitely a keeper!
Thank you Warren! GI2
It occurs to me that my review of Warren's brake, which I posted on his group buy thread, might fit in here, too:
Test bed: SAI Super Match, Douglas SS barrel, USGI Synthetic stock opened up for rear lug.
Visually, the brake is a work of art. Finish is perfect, overall look is very intimidating. GI6 Installation was easy. Splines were snug in the barrel grooves but not tight enough to require a rubber mallet. No rotation of the brake is possible because of the snug spline fit but since the splines are round rather than elongated as on typical brakes or FS's, up-down and/or side to side movement is still possible. On my sample, the castle nut could only be inserted from one side. The back section of the brake where the muzzle inserts (i.e., forward of the window the castle nut fits into) has a shallow collar with a central depression. The collar is slightly larger in diameter than the muzzle on the Douglas barrel so some play is possible, raising some concerns that alignment could shift with use since the round splines can't contribute to overall alignment. Tests with an SAI alignment gauge show that with the brake pushed to the right on my barrel, the gauge comes pretty close to the front hole in the brake (but YMWV). The tip of the castle nut set screw is broader than the standard set screw so alignment of any given castle nut notch becomes more critical. I found the easiest method was to take the set screw out, turn the rifle over, and look through the hole to align the notch, then put the screw back in.
At the range, a bipod and rear bag were used from a bench with a 6-24X scope @ 100 yds. First, there was no indication of misalignment whatever. Second, there was a pronounced shift in POI from the zero used with the NM FS installed by SAI (4" down and 3" right). Third, there was practically no recoil, certainly less than an AR, which is saying something. Fourth, and this was quite a surprise, it was relatively quiet! The USCG brake tends to be very loud, and this seemed even quieter than the NM FS that preceded it. Finally, accuracy seemed to improve. While the fouling shots with PPU 145 gr FMJ didn't look all that great (about 3" for ten rounds), Radway Green delivered a bit over 2" for seven rounds, and Federal Gold Medal Match 168 gr consistently made ragged holes with multiple rounds (e.g. 4 rounds clustered in 1/4" with the fifth about an inch away which was no doubt my fault). That ammo was factory seconds due to accuracy, so I expect Federal first quality will be capable of much better results than this shooter can deliver. Perhaps most surprising was Sellier & Bellot 147 gr FMJ, which put 5 rounds in a 1" square.
The Super Match didn't start to deliver its potential until SAI fixed the wandering op rod guide and then I put it in the USGI Synthetic. But today's results are the best it's ever delivered and I think at least part of that is due to 82nd ABN's brake! This is definitely a keeper!
Thank you Warren! GI2
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