[KYMountainMan]

I have found very little info on the net, and was wondering what everyone is loading for a specific bullet weight and powder, and what your measured groups and velocities are.

I know velocities can vary between ambient temps and powder lot, but am just wondering what your results were.

Thanks

 

[chiro]

I've found my best results for several rifles to be nosler 155 custom comp. bullets with 43 grains of 4064 and a standard primer loaded to an overall length of 2.80". Seems to do better than any 168's overall in GI barrels, I'm sure there are exceptions to this.

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

I have found very little info on the net, and was wondering what everyone is loading for a specific bullet weight and powder, and what your measured groups and velocities are.

I know velocities can vary between ambient temps and powder lot, but am just wondering what your results were.

Thanks

Hi KYMountainMan,

There is much info here and around... I last used Hornady 155 Amaxes that did well but the Sierra's are probably better over all for the M1A platform even without their support to casual users!
I am happy with my Hornadys for the time being and you can find lots of load data and 'group' pics on this site on the 'ten dot' and '20 dot' competition thread...
Jeff

*my rifle seems to like h4895 and WW748 with 155gr to 175 gr bullets. am leaning away from CCI #34's for accuracy though

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

last time I shot my rifle before being 'banned'?

 

[twobyfour]

42.0gr of IMR 4064 behind a 175gr SMK.

 

[WaM14gunner]

I like Varget and Re15 for the 175 Sierras in my 1-10 Super Match. 43.5-45grs works well. For 168 MK's or Nosler Comp, its hard to beat 4895 with anywhere from 40-42grs and the barrel will decide whats best. For most of my shooting I use Win cases and CCI 200 primers, but have used Fed and Rem cases as well, but Rem cases don't give the case life that Win does. I also like LC cases but not the knurled machine gun cases. WCC cases get used here too.

 

[Phil “Murphy” McGrath]

Here you go.

I have found very little info on the net, and was wondering what everyone is loading for a specific bullet weight and powder, and what your measured groups and velocities are.

I know velocities can vary between ambient temps and powder lot, but am just wondering what your results were.

Thanks

I won't get into the boring case prep details. All my load data uses mil-spec cases add .5grn if using a commercial case. Pick any std. primer or the popular primer flavor of the month..

For general plink and inside 200yds
125TnT or the 125 Sierra Pro hunter
41.5 IMR/H-4895
COAL 2.70

300yds Rapids
135 SMK
43.0 H-4895 or 43.5 IMR-4895
COAL 2.75

600yds Slow Prone in nice weather
168SMK
41.5 IMR/H-4895
COAL 2.82

175SMK Slow Prone under iffy conditions
41.5 Varget or 42.0 IMR-4064
COAL 2.82

All listed loads have enough oats too run my rifle and anyone else's that I've passed load data on too without the worry of twanging anything even with grooved pistons...Translation I don't remember the chrono data it was so long ago none of the loads are M/V crazy.

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

I like Varget and Re15 for the 175 Sierras in my 1-10 Super Match. 43.5-45grs works well. For 168 MK's or Nosler Comp, its hard to beat 4895 with anywhere from 40-42grs and the barrel will decide whats best. For most of my shooting I use Win cases and CCI 200 primers, but have used Fed and Rem cases as well, but Rem cases don't give the case life that Win does. I also like LC cases but not the knurled machine gun cases. WCC cases get used here too.

WaM14gunner? hate to ask a dumb question but are you using standard commercial Win cases?
I have a 2005 SM with 1-10 as well and have not tried commercial cases in it.
Jeff

 

[WaM14gunner]

Hi Jeff, yes, comm Win cases. I started using them back in the late 80's when Rem cases started giving me fits: separations and short case life. I prefer Win cases in all my rifles if available.

 

[3Gunnah]

I have had great luck lately with blc-2 at 43.5 in a lc case and a 168 Nosler cc.

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

Hi Jeff, yes, comm Win cases. I started using them back in the late 80's when Rem cases started giving me fits: separations and short case life. I prefer Win cases in all my rifles if available.

Thanks WaM14gunner,
I use them in my Ruger Model 77 .308 deer rifle but have only used GI spec brass in my M1A

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

I have had great luck lately with blc-2 at 43.5 in a lc case and a 168 Nosler cc.

Thanks 3Gunnah,

That seems a bit warm to me? But I am using WW748 at 43 grains so pretty much a wash I guess. Which primer do you prefer? I know ball powders 'require?' a magnum primer but I have had better groups with my 748 with CCI-BR2 primers at range.
Thoughts?

 

[KYMountainMan]

I like Varget and Re15 for the 175 Sierras in my 1-10 Super Match. 43.5-45grs works well. For 168 MK's or Nosler Comp, its hard to beat 4895 with anywhere from 40-42grs and the barrel will decide whats best. For most of my shooting I use Win cases and CCI 200 primers, but have used Fed and Rem cases as well, but Rem cases don't give the case life that Win does. I also like LC cases but not the knurled machine gun cases. WCC cases get used here too.

What are you talking about "Knurled Cases"? I get all of my brass from GIBrass, because he is local for me and not sure I know what you are talking about. WOuld I know if I had run into a "Knurled Case"?

 

[KYMountainMan]

Hi KYMountainMan,

There is much info here and around... I last used Hornady 155 Amaxes that did well but the Sierra's are probably better over all for the M1A platform even without their support to casual users!
I am happy with my Hornadys for the time being and you can find lots of load data and 'group' pics on this site on the 'ten dot' and '20 dot' competition thread...
Jeff

*my rifle seems to like h4895 and WW748 with 155gr to 175 gr bullets. am leaning away from CCI #34's for accuracy though

I wondered about the Amax, but didn't know if they suffered from the same problems that I had in my ARs and the 5.56 loadings. I ran across issues of tip deformity in them, and it drastically hindered accuracy in post 200 Yard shots.

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

What are you talking about "Knurled Cases"? I get all of my brass from GIBrass, because he is local for me and not sure I know what you are talking about. WOuld I know if I had run into a "Knurled Case"?

KYMountainMan, the 'knurled' cases for our M1A's from what I have seen are the desired match ammo with 'knurled' markings around the base to identify... Do a search on here

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

I wondered about the Amax, but didn't know if they suffered from the same problems that I had in my ARs and the 5.56 loadings. I ran across issues of tip deformity in them, and it drastically hindered accuracy in post 200 Yard shots.

No idea KYMountainMan. I love the 155 Amaxes so far and have no experience with AR loadings but my Nephew told me today the his AR is a 200 yd weapon

 

[WaM14gunner]

What are you talking about "Knurled Cases"? I get all of my brass from GIBrass, because he is local for me and not sure I know what you are talking about. WOuld I know if I had run into a "Knurled Case"?

according to Scott Duff's book, The M14 Owners Guide, "military M852 brass with the cannelure near the head should not be reloaded". " they have separated on the first reloading in semi auto rifles". He calls it a cannelure here, others call it knurling. I don't have any nor have I seen any for some time but if I recall its sort of cross hatched just up from the base, about 1/16 or so wide around. If I am wrong about this I stand corrected, going on memory.
Opinions vary greatly on this subject. My view is unless someone gave me a ton of it new, I would avoid as there are better options.

 

[TheShooter]

100 200 and 300 yard zeros are all with 41.5 IMR4895, 168 Nosler CC. Don't have a 600 yard zero.

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

according to Scott Duff's book, The M14 Owners Guide, "military M852 brass with the cannelure near the head should not be reloaded". " they have separated on the first reloading in semi auto rifles". He calls it a cannelure here, others call it knurling. I don't have any nor have I seen any for some time but if I recall its sort of cross hatched just up from the base, about 1/16 or so wide around. If I am wrong about this I stand corrected, going on memory.

Thanks WaM14gunner... That may be the 'hot loaded' sniper 'once fire' stuff I have read on here; I have no clue as have only shot reloads thru my rifles esp my M1A

 

[WaM14gunner]

Also I think I may have confused that brass with machine gun brass.