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I am in the market for a scout scope but can not find very many good reviews. Oh I can find lots of "table top" reviews but these only tell me if I should run away from a product due to fit or finish. What I want is the good, the bad and especially the Ugly. If you haven't put more then 500 rounds down range then please don't tell me its awesome. An example of what I'm looking for is about a year ago there was a lot of talk about the Leatherwood Hi-Lux ATR Long Eye Relief Scout Rifle Scope. A lot of you guys bought it but I have only seen one person comment about it after having taken it too the range. So for those of you who have something that works really well please share and for those of you who had something that you regret paying for, let your brothers know so we don't make the same mistake.
 
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I have used 3 of the Leatherwood scopes, a older Burris and a Leupold.

The old Burris was by far the best, followed by the Leupold. One of the Leatherwood scopes did not hold zero very well, the other two were OK.
 

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...a lot of talk about the Leatherwood Hi-Lux ATR Long Eye Relief Scout Rifle Scope. A lot of you guys bought it...
I'm not aware of any the M14forum members talking about or buying this scope and I've been working on accurizing my SOCOM for quite a while, but then I tend to ignore an awful lot of the general conversations. Personally I don't like any of the modern era Hi-Lux products, they tend to be cheap versions of the old stuff.

I've tried two scopes on my SOCOM, the Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm fixed power Scout scope and the Nikon Force XR 2.5-8x28mm scope with the BDC reticle, I like the Nikon the best.

The Leupold didn't have enough magnification, the rifle actually outshoots the scope. It is a little more compact but that advantage doesn't outweigh my ability to zero in on a coyote at 400 yards.

The Nikon has been a solid, reliable performer for the last couple of years and I have well over 1000 rounds through it. The glass is clear and the colors are accurate, the brightness is on par with scopes that have standard objective lens sizes. I work at a range and I've a few of the Nikon scopes have problems with the adjustment knobs but I haven't seen that issue with the Force XR scope.
 

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Thanks RAMMAC this is exactly what I was looking for. If you search the Hi-lux there are a couple of threads that talk a lot about it but like I said no one has come back to talk about how it has held up.
 

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I mounted a Leupold VX-II on a Mosin Nagant for my brother... given this is a $100 gun (His first rifle i bought for him as a birthday present... Very Sentamental), but a scout scope on a rifle that shoots a 7.62x54R bullet nun-tha-less.

The Scope has held up nicely over about 440 rounds (1 tin of surplus ammo), we are still trying to find a mount that will hold up to the rifle (Getting a third one this christmas) but the scope did get knocked off the weapon when the first mount broke, it landed on the concrete at the shooting range(fell about 4ft).

Glass did not break, the front end of the scope bent a little and the paint scratched where it struck the ground. The scope kept the zero when we replaced the mount with no issues.

The scope is a variable zoom, when you set the scope make sure you get the eye relief set on max zoom or else you will loose your sight picture when you zoom in. The Tube is a little longer which gives you more room to set eye relief.
No glare when you shoot into the rising sun, never had a problem with clear sight picture in the morning fog, however in late evening with the glass does become a little hazzy at maximum zoom due to the small objective diameter... you will have to zoom out to clearly see your target.
 

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A "Scout" scope is a long eye relief scope that usually mounts on the barrel, not a standard scope that mounts on the receiver. The Leupold VX II is a standard eye releif scope.
 

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If you are going to scope a mosin I would suggest this mount, anything else just doesn't seem to hold up well and for the cost of the 3 mounts you have bought thus far you could have paid for one of these. http://www.rocksolidind.com/
 

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No one else has any info or advice?
 

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I have one of these on my Socom and like it a lot. Nice eye relief and clear optics. Has lighted reticule which is adjustable for intensity. Only drawback it's kinda big but points quickly and is well made.

http://swfa.com/Leupold-15-5x33-VX-R-Scout-Scope-P51466.aspx

How long have you had this scope? I really like the looks of it. I am going to have to get behind my rifle and check out the Eye relief distance to see if it clears the action.
 

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You aren't going to get a lot of advice because very few people run scout scopes. IMHO you will get a lot more use out of a more conventionally mounted tactical scope or a red dot/eotech mounted forwards.
The deal is that I got a Garand in a trade. The owner I got it from had a Ultimak scout rail mounted on it. I am debating just selling it but I figure first I would pick up a scout style scope and see how I like it. With it being a garand a conventional scope set up is not possible.
 

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My 25 years old eyes have no problem using these iron sights, as I said I got the ultimak in a trade. I figure I would go ahead and give this rail a sight. I am not sure about ACOG I didn't know that they made long eye relief scopes. I'll have to check it out.
 

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I've only had the Leupold 2.5x IER Scout Scope. I was one of the guys with a lemon SOCOM for accuracy, so I never got to see the accuracy potential of the scope in that combination.

I did like the 2.5x fixed power and found that even with being cross-eye dominant that I could use it with both eyes open. I thought the scope's quality was very good, and would easily buy the Leupold again. I had it mounted in low Weaver rings.
 

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Had it for about 2 months. Bought it used nib from a private party. Only place you can purchase one is though SWFA. Leupold doesn't even have any last time I checked. Eye relief is good even at 5X. You might be able to find one used somewhere for less than SWFA sells them for which is $599 I think. Gonna use it for deer, hog etc...
 

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So I'm thinking I am going to go ahead and try out the Leatherwood LER now my only question would the 308 BDC work well for the M2 30-06?
 
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