M14 Forum banner

61 - 80 of 103 Posts

·
Civilian Non-Combatant
Joined
·
885 Posts
I just read that the Virginia "Assault Weapons Ban" did not pass the Senate. . . .

And Trump just started the Datona 500-.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,779 Posts
Here’s the causes for recall of gov northam in VA.

Code § 24.2-233 states acceptable reasons for recall when it has "material adverse effect upon the conduct of the office" include:[2]

Neglect of duty
Misuse of office
Incompetence in the performance
Other acceptable reasons include:

Conviction of a misdemeanor relating to drugs
Conviction of a misdemeanor involving a "hate crime

You have to petition the court with signatures equal to 10% of the last of the last election 3.1 Million x .10 = 310,000 signatures required.

There are 357,000 “ registered “ firearms in VA
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
528 Posts
The Police have no mandate to protect individual citizens at all.
(SNIP)
Seems crazy that "To Serve and Protect" refers to society in general and not an individual - but that's what has been established by the Courts.

My biggest fear as a CCW holder, if the need arises to protect myself or others, is being mistaken for "the shooter" and neutralized when law enforcement arrives on the scene.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
802 Posts
Seems crazy that "To Serve and Protect" refers to society in general and not an individual - but that's what has been established by the Courts.

My biggest fear as a CCW holder, if the need arises to protect myself or others, is being mistaken for "the shooter" and neutralized when law enforcement arrives on the scene.
That is not a problem, if you react to the situation in the proper manner. When the police arrive on the scene lay down with hands over head.. Don't try and be the hero in front of the police....

They are all ready ramped up, don't give them another decision to make on the split second.. Now with this said, it all depends on the situation, is the shooter down or are you in the line of fire still..
Carry On!!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
528 Posts
That is not a problem, if you react to the situation in the proper manner.

When the police arrive on the scene lay down with hands over head.. Don't try and be the hero in front of the police....

They are all ready ramped up, don't give them another decision to make on the split second.. Now with this said, it all depends on the situation, is the shooter down or are you in the line of fire still..
Carry On!!
Not that simple. Having a gun out when law enforcement arrive is absolutely dangerous - even if you are prepared to immediately put the weapon down and follow commands.

In a recent shooting in a Chicago suburb a Security Guard was holding a person at gunpoint when police arrived and shot him - thinking he was the armed perp.

He apparently had "Security" on his hat, and possibly the back of his jacket, but law enforcement never saw it.

Only thing to do would be to have your pistol holstered before they arrive, if not they may certainly shoot first ask questions later. It was a mistake, but still.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/ct-sta-midlothian-police-shooting-lawsuit-st-1113-story.html

Anyway, it's official - personal protection is your responsibility.

Someone tell Bloomberg...
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,795 Posts
The VCDL (and other sources) say the Judiciary Committee has decided to pass by the bill for this year. They recommended that the VA Crime Commission study the bill this summer to go over the flaws in it and determine if it can be "fixed/corrected" or if it will have any effects on crime in VA.

However, blackface Northam, as governor of the VA, can force the bill back out into the VA Senate (didn't specify if that was back to the committee or back to the Senate as a whole) for another consideration/vote.

The good news is that 4 or 5 democrats voted against the bill, not just republican state senators.

Now, all this Sanctuary County/City/Town work as well as the forming of county militias really needs to continue regardless of todays committee vote. The message to the VA government needs to be clear that the vote today did not change the way the people of the state feel about maintaining their rights - regardless of the feelings/beliefs of the Bloomberg owned dim/lib/prog/socialists in the state government.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,795 Posts
One of the Richmond, VA TV "news" programs had a part of an interview with the assault weapon expert the morning. You may know him as the guy demonstrating the difference between how hunters aim/fire their rifles vs. how mass killers shoot their assault weapons from the hip.

He made a claim that the lawmakers were threatened with harm/death to their families and themselves and that's why the vote went the way it did.

As stupid as he is, if he ever manages to get rid of "assault weapons" he'll probably step out in front of a truck or bus on the city streets and end flatter, not fatter.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
631 Posts
Levine looks like he has something that needs to come out close to his tailbone. LOL> Look at the law enforcement folks in the back rows clapping and jubilant. - that is victory!

It is not over, folks...just a little breather. When you think the fight is over and stick your head up is when it gets blown off. We have to be even more vigilant - watch their every move closer than before.

I figured Virginians will NOT take this lying down. Go out on your knees or on your feet. I hope other states in full communist control get some ideas how to reclaim their rights from these tyrants.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,165 Posts
Hi,
And, how does this relate...

If Trump and the Federal Government, can come into States and enforce Federal Law on Illegal Aliens...

Why can't he come into States like Virginia and strike down local laws that fly in the face of the Constitution and the 2A???
Hi seagiant,

The relation is Trump is getting his opposition voters out of country where they should be. This will help guarantee another 4 yrs where he can keep filling the 9th district with conservative judges.

Then the challenges to the anti legislation can begin.

In my brief absence from this forum I'm catching up on the reading. It was also mentioned, in this thread, about the strengthening of VA militias and their organizing, for their fight against tyranny both political and physically with their growing presence. BRAVO!!!

Also mentioned was the statement of other states that have fallen to tyrants to learn from VAs fight and follow their lead. Again, BRAVO!!!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,867 Posts
One of the Richmond, VA TV "news" programs had a part of an interview with the assault weapon expert the morning. You may know him as the guy demonstrating the difference between how hunters aim/fire their rifles vs. how mass killers shoot their assault weapons from the hip.

He made a claim that the lawmakers were threatened with harm/death to their families and themselves and that's why the vote went the way it did.

As stupid as he is, if he ever manages to get rid of "assault weapons" he'll probably step out in front of a truck or bus on the city streets and end flatter, not fatter.
Some know what the sound of the rattle means. Others have to be told not to step on the snake. Good news is no one got bit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 96coal449

·
Registered
Joined
·
631 Posts
This great nation was born out of Virginia and many other states' sacrifices. And I think Virginia will always honor its duty to guard this country from its enemies within. This state has been my home since the military. I am proud to be part of its fabric...death to tyrants! DI2

I hope we do this fight once and for all to stop all future assault on our God-given rights. The people should have the power to override any encroachment..like a veto power...when these conniving tyrants pass something in the middle of night and no one is looking. WE should end that practice of sneaking votes passing legislations without public oversight.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,322 Posts
Seems crazy that "To Serve and Protect" refers to society in general and not an individual - but that's what has been established by the Courts.

My biggest fear as a CCW holder, if the need arises to protect myself or others, is being mistaken for "the shooter" and neutralized when law enforcement arrives on the scene.
Sorry, but have to disagree with you on that.

IMO first and foremost their duty is to keep the "Kings" coffers filled. How many times do we have to see savagery go unpunished from the non-producers while the working stiff gets hammered for the slightest crimes?

If there is nothing to take from the criminal they almost never care(until it happens to one of them) and let them back out on a plea deal.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
631 Posts
Well..if there is nothing to take from criminals might as well put them all behind bars. They are useless and have no business taking up room outside in society. That can be a dangerous thought. IMO. There has to be a limit at some point or we as society will degrade into chaos. Pretty soon we will be jailing people coz of curly hair or something worse. LOL>

CCW holders should not make the mistake of acting like the savior all the time..and get into situations that will end up killing someone ...and sometimes by mistake..or yourself. I once saw a video of a couple -both CCW holders - get into verbal argument over traffic. So the husband aggresively follows a car that cut him off and the other car/occupants stops alongside. He probably thought he was being brave and got himself beaten up by the two dudes..then after they ran off seeing his weapon -- the CCW holder fires while they were running away. He gets arrested for illegal discharge and assault coz he was no longer in danger after they ran off.

Don't they teach in CCW class not to get into situations, to de-escalate and remove yourself, avoid confrontations? The weapon is there to protect your life and your loved ones...NOT to protect society. That is what cops are for. NOw..if a perp..you pull out a weapon I will most def put a round in your chest if you are in near proximity to me.

There are so many ways CCW holders will get in trouble ..legal or actual..so fast if they don't follow the rules. The only time the weapon comes out is when I will have to put someone down that second to protect my life...or my family. If the neighbor is being assaulted by outside forces, that is just too bad - he shoulda protected himself. If a neighbor is getting robbed, I will just call the cops. I am not going to engage the thiefs. A mistake could end up killing an innocent taxpayer by my doing - that is too much for me. So no.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sorry Dude

·
Registered
Joined
·
46 Posts
I guess he signed into law those bills passed by both the house and senate. A few bills didn't make it thru both houses, including the "assault weapons" ban. I can't remember what else failed to pass, but I believe there were others.
 
61 - 80 of 103 Posts
Top