Shipping gun parts to Canada

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M1A4me

Discussion Starter · Jul 5, 2004

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I'm currently auctioning some M14/M1A parts on Ebay and was wondering if anyone is well versed re. shipping rifle parts to Canada.

The part to be shipped (if won) is an M14/M1A Op Rod from CA.-Montreal, Canada. Am I breaking ay ATF or Canadian gun laws?

Any help is appreciated. :mrgreen:

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Bill Ricca

· #2 · Jul 5, 2004

You will need a license, otherwise you can get into trouble. Military items crossing any border without a license is big time federal prison.

Sometimes people lie on the descriptions, but those that get caught spend a minimum of 18 months, federal time.

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Hawk

· #3 · Jul 5, 2004

Bill Ricca said:
You will need a license, otherwise you can get into trouble. Military items crossing any border without a license is big time federal prison.

Sometimes people lie on the descriptions, but those that get caught spend a minimum of 18 months, federal time.

Bill is correct.... it is illegal to import US Military parts (even though they were manufactured in this country) back into the US with out specific permission in the form of a liscense.

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Tommo

· #4 · Jul 5, 2004

What is the law regarding commercial gun parts? I have seen M1A gas lock sights similar to Smith Enterprise's sights made in Canada but at a lower price. Would it be legal to buy these and have them sent here?

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M1A4me

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jul 5, 2004

Bill & Hawk,

Thanks for the heads up. I'll keep this in mind for present and future transactions.

What about things like Buffer Tech's Recoil Buffers??? Would that count as a U.S. rifle/gun part as well???

Thanks again!!! :mrgreen:

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Hawk

· #6 · Jul 5, 2004

I believe that it might be ok to get a small amount of parts for personal use, but if you are talking about quantity for resale you would still need a import license. It would also be a good idea to check the USPS website for items not allowed....

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Bill Ricca

· #7 · Jul 5, 2004

Commercial gun parts are not a problem unless they amount to more than a specific amount, I forget. There are laws on the books which cover "military munitions list" items. Everything under the sun from weapons parts, vehicle parts, bandages, radios, etc,; if it was owned by our military it cannont come in or go out without a license.

A repro gas cylinder can come in, just like probably 3/4 of the current SA rifle is made overseas, mostly in Taiwan. Commercial parts are not military parts, different laws apply.

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M1A4me

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 5, 2004

Makes sense....

Thanks again guys!!! :mrgreen:

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KDG

· #9 · Jul 5, 2004

This is NOT an advertisment....

I'm currently auctioning some M14/M1A parts on Ebay and was wondering if anyone is well versed re. shipping rifle parts to Canada.

The part to be shipped (if won) is an M14/M1A Op Rod from CA.-Montreal, Canada. Am I breaking ay ATF or Canadian gun laws?

Any help is appreciated.

The Canadians will tell you it's no problem! :lol:

You're not breaking any Canadian laws by exporting this part.
I live up here and have imported .308 Garand barrels, Tasco super sniper scopes, Boyd's stocks, scope mounts, m14 parts, Garand parts, all with NO problems as have thousands of others.

However, U.S. law seems to be changing all the time, and by living up here, we have to keep on top of it. It is after all your laws which restrict such things. The only thing our customs get "uptight" about is Hi Cap mags. We have an idiotic law that states all centerfire mags must be pinned to hold 5 rounds. :roll: If we get pinned 30/5rnd AK mags for our SKS-d's there is usually one helluva arguement to get them back. :twisted:

I can't see an op rod causing much of a stir on either side of the border. Plenty of USGI op rods, bolts, gas cyls, barrels, stocks, sights you name it get shipped up here no problems, everything but the receivers!

Having said this, it's in your best interest to err on the side of caution. As much as we want you guys to ship to us, it's wise to do a little research first.

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Bill Ricca

· #10 · Jul 6, 2004

The biggest problem is the other way around. It is illegal to bring in ANYTHING once owned by US Military without an import license. Naturally the license will not be granted.

This may change in the future, but as of now, that is the law.

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X-man

· #11 · Jul 13, 2004

As another Canuck, its my uinderstanding that this restrction is on complete firearms and critical parts required to complete a firearm, i.e., receiver/frame, etc... For a full list, you can check at the BATF web site that were part of any prior Lend/Lease arrangement. i.e., I can't cross the border into the US with my USGI made SA M-1 Garand. I'm not sure about op-rods. They're pretty innocuous and I doubt if a custom's agent would know what it is, even if it was described as an "op-rod". However, it is better to check to be safe. US gun laws seem to be in a state of flux these days and are ever changing.

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warbird

· #12 · Jul 13, 2004

I posted this across the street as well.

You must get an export permit to ship to Canada from the U.S.
It takes about 6 weeks to get the permit. This is according to the special agent in charge at the Washington office of import & export.

Restricted items are barrels, bolts, trigger assemblies, etc. which are major components of current issued military firearms.

I've been asked to call these parts mechanical lock arm mechanisms and such just to pass customs.
Well, sorry folks but, I ain't doing it either. Anybody who does will risk 10 years in federal prison.

I don't like some of the laws here either but, it's the law and that's all there is to it.

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M1A4me

Discussion Starter · #13 · Jul 13, 2004

warbird said:
I posted this across the street as well.

You must get an export permit to ship to Canada from the U.S.
It takes about 6 weeks to get the permit. This is according to the special agent in charge at the Washington office of import & export.

Restricted items are barrels, bolts, trigger assemblies, etc. which are major components of current issued military firearms.

I've been asked to call these parts mechanical lock arm mechanisms and such just to pass customs.
Well, sorry folks but, I ain't doing it either. Anybody who does will risk 10 years in federal prison.

I don't like some of the laws here either but, it's the law and that's all there is to it.

Great info. warbird!

Since I'm not a major dealer of parts (just selling the parts I've replaced w/ USGI parts). I'm better of dealing w/ people here w/in the US. I ended up avoiding anything that'll get me that "free vacation" you were talking about. I'd rather spend more time in the range practicing to group my shots better than elsewhere...

Thanks for the good info. though! I'm definitely a bit smarter than I was when I posted this. :mrgreen:

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