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Switzerland has a lot of shooting associations with outdoor ranges which are supported by the various counties. Those are non profit setups and allow citizens to hone their shooting skills outside of their military service, both for rifles (300 meters) and pistols (25 and 50 meters). Soldiers can also do their qualification shooting at those ranges.

The army provides ammo, GP 11 (7.5 Swiss) & GP 90 (5.56 NATO) for rifles and 7.65 & 9 mm parabellum for pistols, all at 35 cents per round. The clubs put their orders in in December and pick up their ammo in February, before the start of the season, which runs from March to October.

I picked up 4000 9mm and 8000 7.65mm for my club at the army arsenal.



86 associations pick up their order over two days, so there is some stock there









 

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A guy contacted me, he had some Swiss military ammo he had no use for, so I picked up 960 rounds of 7.65 mm parabellum (.30 Luger), 120 rounds of GP11 (7.5 X 55 mm Swiss) and some collectible GP11 and 9mm (red boxes) for $ 350.-



There’s also a growing sense of panic, with fear that ammo prices will shoot up and availability issues, so we decided to organise a group buy for the club, and I picked up 30’000 rounds at the LGS for $ 7200, i.e. $ 240 / 1000 rds of Geco 124 grains.



The club safes are almost full, about 45’000 rounds not counting .22 lr



 

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I keep some brass, no reloading equipment at the club but several members reload
In the '80's when Beretta got the military contract for the service pistol. At the time those places didn't care about brass. A friend got two 55 gallon drums of spent 9mm from them. He had machine guns that would chew through brass so it was a lifetime of reloading for him 🙂. Glad to hear it's not going to waste.
 

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My favourite LGS is specialised in second hand weapons, he buys from estates, windows or retiring collectors. More often than not there’s ammo with it which he sells me at very reasonable prices

Picked up this haul last month



Tons of .22





Stocked up on 7.62 X 39 for my new Kalashnikovs

From a private seller



And the last crate of Igman (ex Yougoslavia) from another LGS





Some Swiss milsurp, 7.65, 9 mm and old GP11 (7.5 X 55 Swiss) from another private seller



Some old .45 ACP, real cheap, $ 220 for this lot



And some GP 90 (5.56 NATO Swiss), 30-30 Winchester and .223 Remington SP



This seller also had some mags I picked up. Three of the Colt including the 20 rds are Vietnam era / sixties

 

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My favourite LGS is specialised in second hand weapons, he buys from estates, windows or retiring collectors. More often than not there’s ammo with it which he sells me at very reasonable prices

Picked up this haul last month



Tons of .22





Stocked up on 7.62 X 39 for my new Kalashnikovs

From a private seller



And the last crate of Igman (ex Yougoslavia) from another LGS





Some Swiss milsurp, 7.65, 9 mm and old GP11 (7.5 X 55 Swiss) from another private seller



Some old .45 ACP, real cheap, $ 220 for this lot



And some GP 90 (5.56 NATO Swiss), 30-30 Winchester and .223 Remington SP



This seller also had some mags I picked up. Three of the Colt including the 20 rds are Vietnam era / sixties

I'll say one thing, other than a full blown arms dealer (and not the legit kind) you must be the most connected guy in Europe. 🤠
 

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LGS gifted me a few boxes of old ammo, 9mm, .32 ACP, .25 ACP and .22 short





Then I bought this typically Swiss curiosity, a can of GP11 “Taschenmunition”, or pocket ammunition. As you may know, the Swiss militia soldiers kept their rifles at home, and were therefore given a sealed can of 24 rounds, to be only used in case of mobilisation and in order to reach a meeting point.









Precisely this reads :

Guidelines for pocket ammunition
This pocket ammunition is intended exclusively for personal protection during active duty, especially before reaching the designated duty station.
The pocket ammunition is to be presented at each service and during communal inspections.
Anyone who opens the box improperly or misuses the ammunition will be punished in accordance with the order concerning ammunition.
Federal Military Department, Bern 1970
 

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It’s like Christmas morning looking at your posts.
Those long tin cans of ammo are neat.
The key opener reminds me of a can of sardines.
I was fascinated with those types of packaging as a child.
Love those old Vintage Remington boxes as well.
Brings back more childhood memories.
Days roaming sandbars on the Mississippi River with the .22.
 

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The gentleman who sold me the Rem 700 VTR also had a case of Swiss GP90 (5.56 NATO) for a reasonable price ($350.-)







He was also kind to gift me 260 rds of Barnaul .223



And I bought some 9mm subsonic and .30M1 ammo from two different private sellers



 

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Back in April I ordered 20 boxes of Geco .38 spl wad cutter for $ 18.-/box. Only 4 arrived as they were out of stock, the rest was on back order. It finally came with the invoice at the same price despite the general increase of ammo prices. Great shop to deal with.





Also got 150 rds of .357 Sig for $50.- from a private seller





And 224 rds of Swiss army 7.65 mm Parabellum (.30 Luger) for $60.- from another private seller

 

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Then I bought this typically Swiss curiosity, a can of GP11 “Taschenmunition”, or pocket ammunition. As you may know, the Swiss militia soldiers kept their rifles at home, and were therefore given a sealed can of 24 rounds, to be only used in case of mobilisation and in order to reach a meeting point.









Precisely this reads :

Guidelines for pocket ammunition
This pocket ammunition is intended exclusively for personal protection during active duty, especially before reaching the designated duty station.
The pocket ammunition is to be presented at each service and during communal inspections.
Anyone who opens the box improperly or misuses the ammunition will be punished in accordance with the order concerning ammunition.
Federal Military Department, Bern 1970
I recently bought the modern version of the pocket ammunition GP 90 (Swiss version of the 5.56 NATO)













 

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do you know anything about this stuff? apparently, the projectiles have a cupronickel coating
is fouling an issue in our rifles?

there is a semi-local guy selling 200rd battle packs of this (total of 1600rds)
Made in Germany, possibly milsurp, I’ve shot it through 4 different rifles without any issue. Didn’t notice fouling
 

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Picked up a mix of ammo from a guy who sold his guns, .22 lr, 9mm, .38 spl, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .223. I paid $ 360 for the lot, 1450 rds of .22 and 860 rds of other calibers.





And a lot of 7.62X39 from another guy. His rifle didn’t like the steel case. My Norincos will swallow anything.

920 rounds of Barnaul



And 440 rounds of Bishkek, milsurp from the Kirghiz republic. $ 500 for 1360 rounds in total



 

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Nice haul on archived, vintage ammunition CLASSIC12. I am a little late seeing the thread but seeing some of the boxes brings back memories of day's gone by. (y)

Remington Thunderbolt .22, Be cautious with this as an underpowered load, squibs may not exit the barrel. With the outcome as a bulged .22 barrel after the follow up shot pushing the squib out, or not.
S&W 38 is one load that is rarely loaded now and is getting to be non existent.

The spam can of repacked .45 ACP looks to be 1944 vintage that is corrosive and if used clean barrel, weapon after use. I think I seen some Twin City 1953 .45 ACP also which can go either way. The full spam can is neat as being full, unused as a display piece or I would open from underneath and use ammunition in something that is not close to your heart. Allot of U.S. .45 barrel replacements can be attributed to corrosive ammunition.

Have fun with the older ammunition but be cautious.
You Lucky man
 
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