[algaskin31]

Alright guys, I am about to purchase a Safe and was wondering if it would be better to have the pic rail clip guide mount or the cantilever mount from Botach?

 

[bwaddell]

The best would just be to buy an XM21 from Bula

 

[Lurp]

Sage DCSB is in my opinion the best way to mount a optic on a sage chassis. The clip guide mount can sometimes move and lose your zero from what I heard. I believe Larue makes a optic mount for the chassis too but haven't tried it yet. You can get a deal on a used DCSB when they come up for sale used.

Obviously I receiver with a built in rail is the preferred but.....

 

[waldo82]

Second on the DSCB. Mine has been rock solid.

If you have the EMR handguard you could use the traditional receiver mounts too.

 

[hytekrednek]

I have a LaRue 608 "I think", and it works great. It installed easily, and is reliable. I have not tried any others, but I did buy a second LaRue mount for a future red dot optic so I can swap them out when I please.

 

[delong31]

Sage DCSB or the Larue 608.

 

[34SF]

Agree on SageDCSB or the Larue. I've had both on different builds. I think the Sage is heavier and has more solid lock-up but the Larue has a better clamp and reported return to zero. I'll be checking that last part out on Wednesday at the range but the rest is accurate. The DCSB is a part that was designed to be installed and not removed often. The 608 is a work of art with Larue's usual fit and finish. Mine slides slightly fore and aft (about 1/16") on the pic rail when locked and tightened. I'll be adjusting that further before I shoot. The 608 doesn't come with a rear pin (which I like from the dcsb) but I haven't noticed any springboarding to make it necessary. Perfect world would be the DCSB steel and Larue's cams.

I shot at 300 with a previous build using the DCSB. Return to zero was less than 2", so you're still knocking down bad guys if you have to take it off for some reason. The 608 doesn't have the rear reference point to mount but it's Larue...probably straight and stiffer than a preacher.

Either of these solutions are better then most of the other methods available except for maybe removing the rear sight and replacing it with a rail block which I think is a bad idea.

 

[34SF]

Range on Wednesday and I'm now a sworn member of the Larueminati. Tightened up the cams and got a 1.5 and a 1.25, 5 round groups at 100yds, Winchester white box ammo. Took the 608 off, fired a few rounds and put it back on. Same size groups. Three 1.25, one at 1" and one 1.75 with one round AWOL. The point of impact shifted about 1/4" left after replacing but not enough to move the scope; it was probably just my shooting. Take out the two freak groups and this is way better than my day with the Sage DCSB. I inked the rail and the 608 didn't budge; neither did the DCSB for that matter. This was 100 yds, so not a real distance test, but enough for me. My gun is a SA NM with a Surefire flash hider, scope is a Mark4, 4-14 in Badger rings. YMMV but for an EBR, I'm pleased.

 

[kvesi122]

Sadlak makes a mount that has a few rail sections removed to allow it to mount up without having to mess with the top rail of the Sage chassis. I purchased one a few months ago and couldn't be happier.

 

[jkh62]

Running a Basset and the best of both worlds.
VERY good return to zero and iron sight clearance.

The SAGE is a good mount but zero can move if removing the top rail for service while the Bassett is receiver mounted and less impacted ( IMHO).

I did mill a tad amount of clearance on the Basset mount Vs nipping a rear rail segment.

 

[Killashrub]

Sage DCSB. Don't get the cheapies around the net either. Larue isn't bad but the sage DCSB is the best for a sage M14 imo.

 

[Herr Trigger]

DCSB Highly Recommended