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Congrats on your find and welcome to the forum. You can remove the action from the bedded stock, you just shouldn't do it any more than necessary as it will loosen the bedding. There have been known to be markings under the handguard. You can remove the handguard w/o removing the action from the stock, but I believe that requires removing the gas plug and gas lock and sliding the gas cylinder forward to get the handguard clip out of the groves on the barrel. Then it will lift off. But it may be epoxied to the front band also, so you might look for that before you try it.

I suggest you start a new thread with pics!
 

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Recently purchased 001029. She is beautifull! NM/USGI, all original all around as far as I can tell- and rarely fired by looking at surfaces of key parts! This is my first M1A (I've many Garands & Carbines!) & first glass-bedded rifle and it is my understanding there is no way to field-strip without ruining the bedding? Is there a way? Is it advisable to "crack" the bedding to do a full inspection and then re-bed? Bbl is Saco, 7-65, NM stamp on top, no other stamps visible at underside of bbl. Could there be a stamp under upper handguard? And a way to get that off w/o pulling the receiver/bbl from stock? I have a Garand stock clip tool. the bedding is yellow. ? well, I've caught M1A-itis just as I caught Garanditis! I got lucky finding this Devine... going for 3rd shoot/sight-in soon. I'm thrilled to be in such company and appreciate all the knowledge & experience here on this site!
Removing it from the wood doesn't ruin the bedding or require that you re-do the bedding. Doing it constantly will loosen up the bedding. But once in a while won't hurt it. Many people believe it should be stored when not used with the trigger guard unlocked to preserve the bedding. Others don't agree.
With the guard unlocked takes the pressure off the front portion of the bedding and front band. You be the judge.
 

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I recently acquired 002031. I contacted Different about the rifle, here's what he provided from his database (used with permission).

This is what I have on M1A serial number 2031:

It was built by John Holden (an armorer who built match grade rifles for Elmer Ballance) into a match rifle with the following parts: bedded USGI walnut stock, May 1967 Canadian Arsenals NM barrel, TRW bolt, Saco-Lowell operating rod, reamed flash suppressor, match operating rod spring guide, and NM sights. The barrel has a one line Devine Texas address marking consistent with other barrels in this serial number range. The trigger housing has an electropenciled marking, 2031. The stock barrel channel is stamped 2031 J J H.

I hope this helps.

Lee​

His database matched up exactly to the current state of the rifle, showing nothing has been altered. I would add that the bolt and 2 magazines (CM) also have electropenciled marking 2031.

Many thanks to Lee for his help and for leading the research on these rifles.
 

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Devine M1A

I have a Devine M1A S/N 000291 Address line is RT1 BX 210 Devine TX
All 1 line.
I purchased it in early 1972.
NM Marked barrel. Came with Fiberglass stock and 2 M 14 mags with 291 in what looks like pencil. Numbers on side of mag lock block on back of mag.
Plain brown corrigated box with no paper work.
Dealer received 2 rifles. He kept S/N 000290 for himself.
 

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Early Devine Info

I had Ser#109 until a few weeks back, I gave it to my son. It was a Devine receiver purchased from Elmer and shipped to a local dealer. There were three, mine and #68 Keith Gray and #69 Bill Cabe. I was supposed to get the lowest # the shop owner kept it and the former friend took the other. A few years later I colluded with Glen Nelson and the heavy barrel was born. Glen built it with all new GI parts. The Marine Corps wondered what happened as they could not touch an Army shooter for about seven years then we got caught. I and the rest of the shooters would hold our rifles and lift the weights. The Army inspectors thought we were overly protective of our rifles. Glen built mine and now deceased Ltc Joseph J Hinds rifles at the same time. Jay as we called him liked the idea and bought the barrels. He was a Capt and I was a Sgt. back then. I also previously conned a friend who was attending The Rock Island Military Arsenal gunsmith course to turn and install a 26" Hart in a M16 upper chassis. I built it for the mouse gun shoots at The Charlotte Rifle and Pistol club, I installed Redfield Intl on the rear and Redfield Olys on a pedestal another friend John Brook's brother, Joe milled the rear of the receiver and made the adapter and did the front base after I sawed off the M16 front and ground it to barrel contour. Everyone thought I was crazy.The first match, I saved twenty rounds due to a brain f___ and still shot a clean all the way back. Most of us were reservists, I was in the 108th. Div., Cdr. Jim Deveraux and Al Dow were Navy reserve and all enjoyed the camaraderie. I think Deveraux and my self may be the only ones still breathing. At any rate I thought I would share My experiences and these are not B.S. stories. I am still mentally inventing stuff and some are being materialized.
 

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I've posted before about 001173 but thought I'd update the info I've found out about the rifle. 001173 was indeed a receiver sent to the armorers at the AMTU at Ft. Benning. This was confirmed by Elmer Balance yesterday while he inspected my rifle. He was unable to determine whom at the AMTU built the rifle. It is my belief that the rifle was built by Hook Boutin as the Op Rod stabilizer is unique and of his own design. Anyway 001173 can be added as a loose receiver sent to Ft. Benning.
 

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I inherited a Devine from my dad last year, serial 194*. It has the strange stock on it and as far as I can remember, this stock is original to the rifle: birch stained red, thick on the grip, selector hole filed in with wood that does not match the birch well, no proofs or cartouches anyway, sanded very smooth, butt plate heavily pitted and parked over. My question is for those in the know is did they have that much trouble finding stocks for new rifles? I replaced it with a walnut stock from Fred's because I did not like the factory stock.
 

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I inherited a Devine from my dad last year, serial 194*. It has the strange stock on it and as far as I can remember, this stock is original to the rifle: birch stained red, thick on the grip, selector hole filed in with wood that does not match the birch well, no proofs or cartouches anyway, sanded very smooth, butt plate heavily pitted and parked over. My question is for those in the know is did they have that much trouble finding stocks for new rifles? I replaced it with a walnut stock from Fred's because I did not like the factory stock.
Initially, chromium plated M14 barrels were hard to find but Elmer Ballance was able to purchase a lot of 1000. AFAIK, stocks were not hard to come by. If you have time and opportunity, would you mind removing the butt plate from the red birch match stock? I'm curious as to what markings, if any, are stamped into the wood under the butt plate. TIA
 

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We have been given the opportunity to purchase a older M1A rifle SN: 001447 with a Devine, TX address on the barrel. The following number is on the barrel: SAK7700190 or SAK7700100 and a date of 10-65. The rifle metal has standard military finish. The rifle action is in what appears to be a walnut wood stock. The rifle has a ART scope mt. # 0264 and a Redfield 3-9 pwr. scope with the same 0264 number and with cam and a range lines reticle. We are getting this info via a customer who knows the current owner of the rifle who has owned it for more than 20 yrs. The rifle is in VA and we are in AL so we have not been able to examine the rifle except via pictures. If anyone has any ideas about the rifle please let us know. Thanks for your assistance.
 

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Devine M1A Record of Texas M1A Rifles

Your reference information is outstanding. If you are still adding serial numbers I have a few for you. All have been authenticated by Elmer Ballance as original with correct barrel markings. 1) 000305 with 2 line RT I BX 2IO DEVINE TX address hand stamped going left to right towards muzzle under gas plug. 2) 000394 with 1 line addess RT I BOX 2IO DEVINE TEX under gas plug but is upside down when reading left to right towards muzzle. 3) 001469 with 2 line address also inverted RT I BOX 2I0 DEVINE TEX under gas plug on barrel. 1469 JJH stamped in barrel channel of stock. Very close examination under high magnification indicates all three hand stamped with same size and serif
font dies all demonstrating 26 distinct unique common characteristics.
4) 001794 1 line pantograph engraved RT 1 BX 210 DEVINE TEX with 1794 JJH stamped in barrel channel of stock.
 

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Shoulda kept it.

Back in the 1970's, I was working in a Porsche Audi store in Dublin, OH as the sales manager and one of my salesmen came to me knowing that I was interested in guns and he had a friend who needed some money and had a M1A that he wanted to sell. I was only a few years out of the Army and had taken basic training with an M14 and I thought even though my firearm interest was Civil War and Skirmishing, I was interested and when the friend said he wanted $200 for it, I took it.
If my memory is correct, it was serial number 000479 marked Devine TX, with a Winchester barrel, TRW bolt, H&R oprod and a pure GI stock complete with unfilled butterfly cut out. And in perfect condition. I hadn't read much about the M1A so was pretty ignorant but thought it was really cool and just like the H&R M14 I had in basic. But my interests were in other directions and so kept it for just a few years. Then a mint Springfield 1863 caught my eye and the M1A was gone. I have often wondered where that M1A is now. Hopefully in a good home.
I know, I know, I shoulda kept it. Believe me, I know. GI2
 
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