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I drove over an hour to the range today only to have the 3rd round completely lock up in the chamber. I was using Tubb's finishing ammo. I brought my firearm to a gunsmith and he was able to extract the round. It suffered from an LPS (never fired), and the shoulder was too wide which caused it to seize. The tip of the round is also slightly impacted from chambering. I called Tubbs and they want me to send pics.
 

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I drove over an hour to the range today only to have the 3rd round completely lock up in the chamber. I was using Tubb's finishing ammo. I brought my firearm to a gunsmith and he was able to extract the round. It suffered from an LPS (never fired), and the shoulder was too wide which caused it to seize. The tip of the round is also slightly impacted from chambering. I called Tubbs and they want me to send pics.
Expensive marketing gimmick.
 

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I drove over an hour to the range today only to have the 3rd round completely lock up in the chamber. I was using Tubb's finishing ammo. I brought my firearm to a gunsmith and he was able to extract the round. It suffered from an LPS (never fired), and the shoulder was too wide which caused it to seize. The tip of the round is also slightly impacted from chambering. I called Tubbs and they want me to send pics.
Expensive marketing gimmick.
Yep. My mistake.
 

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Not really. It's been around forever and has been proven to work.
Still not a good plan for a rifle with a gas system, I suppose you could cut the gas off, but the m14 isn't made to be a tack driving weapon. You are correct it has been around for decades and lots of people swear it works. My only question is how do they know how the barrel would have shot if they didn't use it?
 

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Wow. Even without putting that stuff in a rifle it's scary. That bulge alone in the case neck would cause me to junk the stuff.
 

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It's a little like taking your Briggs & Stratton and balancing & blueprinting it. OK if you want too, but to what end?
Blowing abrasives into a close tolerance piston system isn't generally a good thing.
Bolt action systems with the potential of 1/4 minute accuracy are what these things are made for.
 

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It's a little like taking your Briggs & Stratton and balancing & blueprinting it. OK if you want too, but to what end?
Blowing abrasives into a close tolerance piston system isn't generally a good thing.
Bolt action systems with the potential of 1/4 minute accuracy are what these things are made for.
Yeah, it was probably a dumb idea. But I've spent far more money on far worse things. That was a pretty cheap lesson, actually.
 

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It's a little like taking your Briggs & Stratton and balancing & blueprinting it. OK if you want too, but to what end?
Blowing abrasives into a close tolerance piston system isn't generally a good thing.
Bolt action systems with the potential of 1/4 minute accuracy are what these things are made for.
Yeah, it was probably a dumb idea. But I've spent far more money on far worse things. That was a pretty cheap lesson, actually.
And then I read things like this here...

"We had a rifle build here about a year ago for a seat member in Houston,TX. After the build I took it to the range and for the life of my I could not get less than 3 inches. I even took it to the range more than omce thinking it was me. I got fed up and decided to run a box of final Finnish through it and it tightened up the groups well under an inch. The stuff really works. I just don't know how well it will work on that 16 inch barrel"

Fake news? Some seem to love it for breaking in a barrel, some say it has no right being shot in a gas operated rifle. I only purchased it because of posts like this and it seemed like it couldn't really harm anything.

I showed my friend the bad round. He reloads and believes either they either used a weakened case that had been reloaded too many times, or they applied too much pressure to the top portion which caused the neck and shoulder areas to expand. Either way, it is unacceptable.
 
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