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pistol gripped stock on ebay...

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now before yawl start tellin me I put the post on the wrong forum....the reason for placing it here is due to the craftiness of the woodworker who attached the grip. take a look.....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2201393283
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Wow, that's pretty cool Hawk. Who ever did it must be pretty good at wood work. I like the grip look better than the M14E2 grip.
wow that's a great job 8O
Too bad it's out of my price range.
Its nice woodwork but...

The area just to the rear of the pistol grip and forward of the comb looks awfully thin to me.
It will break! he has too many straight line cuts running with the grain and across the grain and he also really thinned out the wrist area. I give it 500 rounds max and it will be in two peices. Stick to the e-2 if you like the pistol grip. At least they are securely attached to the stock and no straight cuts were made inside the body of the stock before gluing and I beleive bolting it on. Doesn't that wood plug on the bottom of the grip conceal a small bolt? I never had a reason to take one apart and see but that is what I am guessing. All the force of the recoil is gonna be channeled right through where he put that grip on. It won't last. The nature of wood to split along the grain is gonna get the best of it. he just helped speed up the process.

One last thing while I am on a roll. The trigger finger is gonna be too far forward to properly manipulate unless you are a 10 year old. Probably by at least a half inch but probably closer to an inch. There is a lot to consider in designing a pistol grip or thumbhole type stock that isn't already designed in to a conventional stock. The conversion is almost impossible to do right. It does look pretty cool I guess though when you don't look at it from a stockmakers point of view. I have only made about ten stocks to date though and half were rifles, half shotguns so I am still an amateur. What do I know?
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m14dan said:
It will break! he has too many straight line cuts running with the grain and across the grain and he also really thinned out the wrist area.
That's a good point, didn't think about that. Guess it's a t least something out of the "norm".
Good woodwork does not compensate for bad engineering. It looks really weak to me, and lacks the line of the E-2.

JMO - cw
Sent an email about it. The seller did the mod, they also added to the description. Nicely finished but I questioin the engineering as well.
Good woodwork does not compensate for bad engineering. It looks really weak to me, and lacks the line of the E-2.
looks like when it goes bang al you will be holding is the grip

Phil
It might last if all he does is shoot and don't hit everything the jungle has to offer. If he was crafty enough to make the grip he may have some crafty internal bracing in the stock.
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I am the one who made the pistol grip stock on ebay. I did take into account the trigger pull which is 2 1/2 inches. That is what the trigger pull is on my M1A. You cannot tell from the pic but the cut on the pistol grip is not a straight cut it has a curve to it at the web. The thickness of the wrist area was determined after the grip was placed on it and it was left as thick as possible and still get the best possible grip. It is secured on the gun with a 1/4" carriage bolt drilled at an angle from the top to just behind the trigger guard. The grip is fitted and bedded on and securely tightened with a lock nut. The only cuts on the gun are not a straight cuts they are curved. The grain runs the length of the grip. I have sold two of these stocks and never had a complaint. I guarantee my work and if they don't like it they can send it back. I have never had one I made break.
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