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My M14 collection seems to be slowly growing, but it takes a while to build absolutely perfect clones! I've been working on a USMC shooting team M14 with a smear stock and Barnett barrel for about 4 or 5 years, that's about when I acquired my first parts for the build. The rifle was put on the back burner until recently, when I made a trade with @forceman and got an original USMC smear stock from him. He then found me a 5 line Springfield receiver and I gave him the green light to start the build!

I've always wanted one of these rifles, and I've always read the threads posted here when you guys but these USMC target guns. Well, I can finally join the club! This rifle was built by Terry (@forceman) with a 5 line Springfield receiver, original USMC M14 smear stock, original USMC M14 Barnett barrel from 1991, and various GI parts. Terry built this amazing rifle to exact USMC specs and even used a 2112 armorer made tool for unitizing the gas system or something like that. The rifle is also double lugged, like most of the USMC rifles were. The rifle turned out great and I can't thank him enough for his help with the build!

Now the most important part, the photos! Also, if any of you have a similar USMC shooting team M14 (smear or woodland stock), please post some photos here in this thread for us to enjoy!

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Here are mine in woodland smear and desert camo.
Apology about the photos.

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Awesome rifles, that's a beautiful green smear stock! The tan stock is an interesting one, very rare color pattern for USMC rifles. I have a few of the desert smear stocks, but not one like you have. Do both builds have original Barnett barrels? How do they shoot? I'm looking forward to taking mine to the range when it warms up!

Looks like Terry built those for you as well, I see some similarities in our builds like the white Hysol bedding material for the handguard. Build the same way the 2112's built them, details like that matter in builds like these!

Hopefully more people will post their USMC shooting team builds, I know there's more out there!
 

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These are the first two rifles that Terry built me, the green smear and then the desert camo. I have not shot the green smear since I got from him, but the desert camo, my children and I shot it almost every weekend last year. The rifle shoots way better than we do! I had a good amount of surplus ammo that I baught back in the '90, that is what we used.

Photo was taken last Oct '22 at West End Range-Lytle Creek, San Bernadino, Ca.
That bullseye is pretty torn up, nice shooting! Results like that gives me some high hopes for my rifle! I need to find some ammo as well, I just realized that I need a resupply. Are you only shooting surplus ammo in that tan M14? Or do you shoot any new match loads? I'd be interested to see how different ammo groups with your rifle, but I'm sure it would probably shoot just about anything pretty well.
 

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Some photos from a few years ago. I used to have 3 desert smear stocks, I acquired the 3rd one after these pics were taken and I traded one of them to Terry last year. I sold or traded the green smear in this photo, it had checkering carved into the grip by the Marine who used this stock. This is how I ended up with the green smear on my rifle in this thread, I essentially upgraded from the green smear in these photos to the one in the photos in this thread's first post. I'm going to send Terry my 2 desert tan smears soon, and I'm trying to work a deal with him on another USMC M14 stock. I have original USMC Barnett shooting team barrels for all of these shooting team builds. Can't wait until they're all complete!

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The OP has earned the right to display the EGA in any form he wishes. Those that did not are simply posers and in no way show a tribute to those that worked and earned it. Sorry , but that is a fact. The Eagle Globe and Anchor is a sacred emblem for Marines only, for which many have served and died to hold close to their heart. If you are not a Marine, take our emblem off your fake rifle and be happy someone doesn't feed the butt of the rifle to you in your ignorance. Semper Fi
@nf1e, we're both Marines who have earned our Eagle, Globe and Anchor, and have honorably served our country, so I completely understand everything you wrote in your post and your sentiment behind it. However, I hold a different opinion about these USMC stickers on people's clone builds and I'd like to explain the rational behind my viewpoint.

I care deeply about USMC history, as many of you have seen from my tedious and detailed study of the M40 series of sniper rifles, and my volunteer work with the Scout Sniper Association. I absolutely hate seeing any USMC history destroyed and the Marine Corps itself has already destroyed tons of history that my friends and I have been part of, such as cutting up the McMillan A4 stocks. I don't support any history being destroyed, so I implore everyone, Marine or otherwise, to keep any original USMC stickers on their original USMC shooting team stocks! Those stickers are a small part of USMC history and they were put on those stocks in celebration of the Corps and to show other competitors who these shooters are.

Having an original USMC sticker on an original USMC stock is something to be treasured and to be taken care of for future generations, not destroyed. The USMC stickers are so prevalent of the USMC shooting team stocks that it's now pretty much a requirement to add one to a USMC clone clone build, even one using a regular civilian purchased stock. It doesn't mean that person is a poser, it means that person enjoys USMC history and is respecting it by making their clone rifle as close to the issued team guns as they can get. If the stickers are on the vast majority of the stocks used by the shooting team, then it should be added to the build list.

A poser is someone who pretends to be something or someone that they are not. Having an original USMC sticker on an original USMC shooting team stock is preserving USMC history. Putting a replica USMC sticker on a clone USMC shooting team rifle is respecting USMC history. The people who own rifles built using original or replica stickers aren't posing as Marines or calling themselves Marines, they just want to keep USMC history and the tradition of shooting team stickers alive.

Here's an example of a poser. A guy I knew from school went out and purchased a USMC t-shirt (basic gray shirt with a large USMC on the front in black letters) about the same time that I was enlisted in the Corps. He said that he was just showing his support for the military and I told him that he shouldn't wear the shirt at all because he'll look like a poser. He didn't listen to me, and instead he cut the sleeves off the t-shirt and would wear it to the gym trying to look cool. He even decided that he would looker cooler if he had a high and tight haircut. That's a poser. That's a completely worthless person who needs to be something they are not because they've never achieved anything in their lives. There's a universe of difference between this scum bag and someone with a USMC sticker on the side of their USMC shooting team clone.

There's also a slippery slope with a sticker restriction, where does it end? Should civilians now be allowed to own any type of USMC clone rifle? Or even "USMC PROPERTY" marked rifles like the H&R Reising Model 60 or CMP surplus Remington 40X? After all, some rifles like these were only used by Marines, and some guns are purely iconic USMC, such as the M40. I personally know tons of people who have never served in the Marines, but they love the M40 series, and rabidly collect those rifles and parts. To me, these people are enjoying something that's part of USMC history, but it's also larger than the that, these people are enjoying their own COUNTRY'S history! Without civilian taxpayers, there would be no Marine Corps. Even if there were somehow still a Marine Corps, without our fellow countrymen we would have no one to protect and no reason to exist.

Marines and civilians aren't mutually exclusive and we need each other to survive. Even though civilians don't have the right to call themselves Marines and use our emblems like the Eagle, Globe and Anchor, they still have the right to celebrate our country's history, which includes our military history. A civilian isn't calling themselves a Marine or using our emblem in a personal manner by putting a USMC sticker on their stock, they are showing their appreciation for the Corps and our country.

If anyone here has an original USMC shooting team stock with an original USMC shooting team sticker on it, you should cherish that piece of history and guard it from anyone who wishes to destroy it. Don't ever remove those original stickers, that's USMC history and it belongs on that stock, regardless of who currently owns it. If you aren't a Marine, but want to put a reproduction USMC sticker on your USMC shooting team clone rifle, go for it and thank you for keeping interest in our Corp's history! Enjoy your rifle with USMC sticker respectfully, don't be a poser, don't call yourself a Marine, and we won't have any issues. It's that simple.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the USMC (or any other military branch or unit) sticker debate, forever.
 
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