[Harpoon1]

One of the big 2 shipping companies supposedly delivered a 1/2 case of 308 to my office thursday afternoon while I was out of town. I get home saturday evening and swing by our office and I cant find it. Our office is open 24/7/365, we never close, ever! Someone is always there, and usually several or more people are there at all hours of the day.

Apparenly, this deliveryman took the package to one room in the building, where 2 people were "on watch" that day. Which in and of itself was not out of the ordinary but, then whoever was in the room where the package was delivered would normally sign for the package. Not someone else in another room. And having 2 people there made it all the more unlikely that both were out of the room at the very same time that he delivered the package. Making having another employee in a different part of the building, who never actually saw the package, sign for it, odd. Very odd!

Now, Ive had dozens of shipments of ammo delivered this way, and the deliveryman this time was the "regular" deliveryman, so, why now? Why take this box? Doesn't add up either.

While its only $350, its annoying, to say the least. And I would love to catch a thief.

I paid by Visa, and purchased shipping insurance from the seller and was probably charged a week ago, maybe 10 days ago now.

Is there any recourse? File a complaint with the shipper? Any other ideas?

 

[CAVman]

Deja Vu!

(All Over Again!)

GI5

http://m14forum.com/geedunk/197397-fedex-delivery-problems-suggestions.html

CAVman in WYoming

 

[32639]

One of the big 2 shipping companies supposedly delivered

Now, Ive had dozens of shipments of ammo delivered this way, and the deliveryman this time was the "regular" deliveryman, so, why now? Why take this box? Doesn't add up either.

Are you accusing the delivery man? I think that's a long shot. These guys have good paying jobs. I think it's unlikely they risk it for a signed for package. Since the package was delivered on Thursday and you found it missing in Saturday probably another employee or office visitor or cleaning crew took it. Or it's under a desk some where.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

If you are concerned about the delivery man contact the carriers regional office and ask for Loss Prevention information (Both FedEx and UPS have Field LP).

You have the right to know the time, location, and signature of said package being delivered.

Your office has no physical security open 24 hours?.....nobody had to let the person in?, no CCTV?, no vendor log?.....asking for trouble there.....

 

[Harpoon1]

Are you accusing the delivery man? I think that's a long shot. These guys have good paying jobs. I think it's unlikely they risk it for a signed for package. Since the package was delivered on Thursday and you found it missing in Saturday probably another employee or office visitor or cleaning crew took it. Or it's under a desk some where.

I dont want to accuse anyone just yet, however, the part about suppssedly leaving the package in one room and then having someone in another part of the building sign for it, is all very unusual.

Its not under a desk anywhere, Ive looked.

There is no cleaning crew.

Or any visitors allowed in the building!

Our employees make substanstially more than the deliveryman does and in turn have much more to lose, on top of having been employed with us for decades! Its unlikely, though not impossible, that they are involved.

Which brings us back full circle to the deliveryman and his odd behavior!

 

[Harpoon1]

If you are concerned about the delivery man contact the carriers regional office and ask for Loss Prevention information (Both FedEx and UPS have Field LP).

You have the right to know the time, location, and signature of said package being delivered.

Your office has no physical security open 24 hours?.....nobody had to let the person in?, no CCTV?, no vendor log?.....asking for trouble there.....

I know when and who signed for the package. One of the problems is, the person who signed for it never actually saw the package delivered, only the deliveryman. And she took his word for it because he was the regular deliveryman and she had no reason to doubt him.

However, i will take this up with loss prevention. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

I dont want to accuse anyone just yet, however, the part about suppssedly leaving the package in one room and then having someone in another part of the building sign for it, is all very unusual.

Its not under a desk anywhere, Ive looked.

There is no cleaning crew.

Or any visitors allowed in the building!

Our employees make substanstially more than the deliveryman does and in turn have much more to lose, on top of having been employed with us for decades! Its unlikely, though not impossible, that they are involved.

Which brings us back full circle to the deliveryman and his odd behavior!

Maybe....maybe not.....the odd thing to me is what I stated earlier....I've been in Loss Prevention/Asset Protection/Industrial /Corporate Security long enough to know it's not usually the obvious answer.....I'd still like to know what security measures you have in that office building?.....aside from that there are steps you can take. Report a package not delivered and they will work it, and tell you the time, place, location left and who signed...if they can't then they will initiate their own investigation.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

I know when and who signed for the package. One of the problems is, the person who signed for it never actually saw the package delivered, only the deliveryman. And she took his word for it because he was the regular deliveryman and she had no reason to doubt him.

However, i will take this up with loss prevention. Thanks for the heads up.

As they say in the business.......I'd love to get that person "in the chair"....lol....may find out who is stealing from the employee coffee fund also...; )

Good luck with it...

 

[MrM1A]

I know when and who signed for the package. One of the problems is, the person who signed for it never actually saw the package delivered, only the deliveryman. And she took his word for it because he was the regular deliveryman and she had no reason to doubt him.

Well this is going to sound harsh but.....isn't the point of signing for something to accept the responsibility for it?

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Well this is going to sound harsh but.....isn't the point of signing for something to accept the responsibility for it?

Music to my ears....not harsh at all....all part of an investigative path...; )

 

[CAVman]

Are you accusing the delivery man? I think that's a long shot. These guys have good paying jobs. I think it's unlikely they risk it for a signed for package.

Just a small point, Doug...

Yeah, 'back in the day'(as us old farts like to say)these delivery guys did in fact have very good paying jobs with serious benefits, retirement packages, etc...

Today...look at the 'small print' on the site of the delivery trucks: 'Operated by Elmer Fudd, Contractor' !!!

GI5

Seriously...some of the 'drivers' could just as well be UBER drivers!

CAVman in WYoming

 

[Harpoon1]

Well this is going to sound harsh but.....isn't the point of signing for something to accept the responsibility for it?

I don't think its harsh either, and yes, thats the point.

And in the future, now, Im sure she'll be more "responsible" and inquisitive.

Again, it was only $350 and Im not going to lose any sleep over it. It's more about the principle of the thing, not the money.

 

[Evil Incarnate]

Looking back at your OP, you say "One of the big 2 shipping companies..."

You don't have to say which one, but FWIW, in my personal experience...

If it was Fedex, I'd be quicker to assume foul play on the part of the delivery guy. UPS, could'a happened, but not as likely.

I've had multiple bad experiences with Fedex. At an apartment complex I used to live in, they wouldn't even bother to knock on our door, just leave the packages at the leasing office. When I called customer service to complain, a dude named Carlos White heard what I had to say, and accused me of contradicting myself. "No I didn't", I said. "Yes you did, I have you on tape", he replied. "Well, let's listen to it, then", I said back. Then the backtracking began. He couldn't just pull up the tape, yada yada. Wish I had had the presence of mind to ask to speak to Carlos's supervisor.

Yes, I admit it. Still have a really bad attitude (and still remember Carlos's name) 6 years later.

Just 5-6 weeks ago, Fedex left a package by the gate at the fence in front of our house. Didn't even bother bringing it to the front door. We never use that gate. The package sat there 4-5 days, was rained on, and the contents ruined.

Dont recall ever having similar experiences w/ UPS.

Just sayin'. Which company it was matters. A lot.

 

[srinidhalaya]

Looking back at your OP, you say "One of the big 2 shipping companies..."

...

At least FedEx was taking it to the leasing office for you...
MY experience with FedEx, is them leaving $1200 worth of computer parts on my apartment doorstep, shipped from NewEgg. With NewEgg, any purchase over a certain amount using PayPal requires a signature. So, not only did the tard leave $1200 package on my door, he then lied, and said he dropped it off at the leasing office, and forged my signature, saying that I signed for it....at the leasing office....why would I sign for a package, at the leasing office? Hell, I would have been happy if he would have left it at the office, it's better than it just sitting at my door for 6 hours, with a giant NewEgg label on the box, for anyone who knows what NewEgg is to swipe.

I almost claimed theft to teach the lying SOB a lesson, but I have a conscious, and couldn't bring myself to lie and steal for principle.

The best of luck to the OP and quick recovery of the missing package.

 

[elcid85]

I use both and they both suck.

- We used to import a product from the UK that would arrive in perfect condition. We had a 50% breakage rate with UPS when shipping to the end user until I started double boxing with additional padding.
- I have had FedEx, UPS, and USPS leave packages in the rain with no protection.
- Can't remember which it was, but one left a customer's server on the front lawn halfway between the front door and the road despite signature required and hold at the terminal notices

 

[32639]

I guess I've been lucky. I have used both services many times over the years and never had a damaged or missing package. Stuff that I have ordered half way across the country has arrived incredibly fast. Tracking has been spot on.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

"Adapting to a changing world"........

While I'll stay on the OP's topic ""Missing" Ammo Shipment"... Mentally I think ""Missing _______ (fill in the blank) Shipment". 50 years ago, a missing shipment would have possibly resulted in a termination or at least a reprimand in someone's employee file. Our world has changed.

What are our (ammo buyer's) options to assure future delivery?

Hobo

 

[Instructor]

I am confused, did someone in the office sign for the pkg.?? Someone in your office knows something about the pkg. if they acknowledge that they observed the actual delivery take place. I would do some questioning and as to who makes more income than the other one is not an issue in this case, more than likely someone who needs or want ammunition either individually or for a friend?? Just a suggestion.

 

[andyh1956]

I've had good luck with UPS, only one dropped ball with USPS & POOR experience with Fed Ex. The UPS kid that delivers to our shop says they pay him $30 hr. More than me! I had some rifles delivered by FedEx from SOG once, three boxes tapped together with TIRE TRACKS on them!