[Circlehook]

Like one of the comments said, You can bet if they disclose an area of testing, it is only a front to draw your attention away from the real area of operation. Who knows, but it is a little suspicious to me. I don't ever use a GPS. I know where I am and know how to use a compass and a map. Your thoughts?

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne...g-that-disrupts-gps-over-a-huge-area_06082016

 

[Mindfield]

I'm not sure how you can blackout sattelite signals over a wide area, but since our .mil is so reliant on GPS too I must assume theirs still work somehow. It concerns me the amount of ops here in the states targeting primarily american civilians/cities while arming Isis and the brotherhood, flooding us w/ Syrian 'refugees' etc.

 

[stevegun 1]

Very interesting!

 

[Mattitude]

They aren't blacking out the signal, they are encrypting it. It can be done in a way that only certain receivers can unscramble the data, and if only the government/military have those units then only they can use the GPS data. After the first Gulf war GPS satellites were required to transmit a certain amount of error to civilian receivers (100yd accuracy...or something like that) while military receivers could decode the actual data (1-2ft accuracy...or something like that).

I'm not sure how you can blackout sattelite signals over a wide area, but since our .mil is so reliant on GPS too I must assume theirs still work somehow.

 

[NATOBTHP]

China Lake is chock full of surprises. Advanced testing of just more than weapons.

 

[rickgman]

They aren't blacking out the signal, they are encrypting it. It can be done in a way that only certain receivers can unscramble the data, and if only the government/military have those units then only they can use the GPS data. After the first Gulf war GPS satellites were required to transmit a certain amount of error to civilian receivers (100yd accuracy...or something like that) while military receivers could decode the actual data (1-2ft accuracy...or something like that).

In fact, when GPS was first operational there was a programmed random error that was part of the system. It was referred to as "Selective Availability". Of course, military GPS units could decode the programmed error and use the full accuracy of the system. The rationale was that our own GPS system could not be used to enhance the accuracy of Soviet missiles aimed at precise targets like underground missile silos. Later, this feature was rendered inop. All that being said, on a number of occasions when selective availability was supposedly in effect, I sort of tested the accuracy of the system by navigating to an established point and found that the resulting accuracy was pretty close to the full accuracy potential of the system (10m). Rick

 

[Superchud1]

The military conducting tests on how to jam/disrupt GPS signals isn't come massive conspiracy. You can purchase your own GPS jammer for a few hundred dollars. The military conducts tests all the time on how to disrupt electronic communication and navigation. Of course they are not going to say exactly what they are doing. It would be silly to give potential adversaries tips on how we would operate. Be careful when getting your news from conspiracy websites...you tend to get a skewed version of events.

 

[howardhuges]

compass and map....im good thanks

 

[commostud]

I'm not sure how you can blackout sattelite signals over a wide area, but since our .mil is so reliant on GPS too I must assume theirs still work somehow. It concerns me the amount of ops here in the states targeting primarily american civilians/cities while arming Isis and the brotherhood, flooding us w/ Syrian 'refugees' etc.

Gps is a military system not a private system. They designed it so if they want they flip a switch and off it goes for the rest of us. The miltary/government will be able to use it, but we the people can't if they don't want us too.

That is why other governments are trying to setup there own version of gps. They won't have to depend on the US government for there purposes.

That's all I have to say about that, for now!

 

[nf1e]

Wouldn't hurt my feelings if the shut that and cell phones off. Maybe even the internet.

 

[howardhuges]

NF1e...No no no... need the internet ....where would we go without our M14 Forum.....

 

[Mindfield]

I still use a map n compass and directional SWAG lol

 

[lysander]

I'm not sure how you can blackout sattelite signals over a wide area, but since our .mil is so reliant on GPS too I must assume theirs still work somehow. It concerns me the amount of ops here in the states targeting primarily american civilians/cities while arming Isis and the brotherhood, flooding us w/ Syrian 'refugees' etc.

Very simply, if we are reliant on it, other are as well. It would behoove us to know how to "turn off" a GPS if required.

"...he who can destroy a thing, controls a thing..." Paul Atreides

 

[lysander]

Gps is a military system not a private system. They designed it so if they want they flip a switch and off it goes for the rest of us. The miltary/government will be able to use it, but we the people can't if they don't want us too.

That is why other governments are trying to setup there own version of gps. They won't have to depend on the US government for there purposes.

That's all I have to say about that, for now!

At present, the US owns the current satellite constellation that provides GPS signals, but the technology is not secret and there is nothing to prevent a hostile fraction or country to launch there own constellation (or partial constellation). That would mean that anyone could have their own GPS guided bombs, etc....

 

[DukeConnor]

damn, this must be the reason i have been getting skunked on the walleye this year. damn government scrambling my gps on lake erie. cant seem to find the first trench. basturds. probably harvesting all the eyes to store in fema freezers. basturds.

 

[danthman114]

I seen this on Drudge report. It doesn't surprise me that they're testing it. I've seen a lot of that sort of thing when I worked at Yuma proving ground. It's a great idea since every long range ballistic missile is GPS guided and with Iran, and n Korea testing missiles on top of China and Russia putting around off the coast of California in nuclear subs...

 

[nf1e]

NF1e...No no no... need the internet ....where would we go without our M14 Forum.....

My first experience with gun forums was using the old bulletin boards run over telephone with a 110 baud rtty modem. Talk about molasses slow, but it did work and we had oodles of fun doing it.

 

[auger]

compass and map....im good thanks

....copy that.......

 

[Mike7.62]

The FAA has issued NOTAMS IRT the testing, and where and when the system will be affected. So far no one at my company of which I am aware have reported any problems navigating in the area, and all of our aircraft are using GPS as the primary RNAV input.

 

[lysander]

I seen this on Drudge report. It doesn't surprise me that they're testing it. I've seen a lot of that sort of thing when I worked at Yuma proving ground. It's a great idea since every long range ballistic missile is GPS guided and with Iran, and n Korea testing missiles on top of China and Russia putting around off the coast of California in nuclear subs...

None of our strategic ballistic missiles are GPS guided. They all rely on inertial guidance with stellar observing to assist and correct for drift. Unless someone knows how to turn off the stars and negate the laws of physics, ours are un-jammable. The Trident D5 is accurate to 90 meters, the Minuteman III is accurate to 120 meters.

I am certain the old Soviet designed strategic ballistic missiles have the same type of guidance, as they were designed long before there was a GPS. The Russians haven't changed the concept of their guidance, since they actually don't own a GPS constellation.

Same goes for the Chinese. Of for that matter the Indians, Pakistanis, Iranian and even Kim Jong-un...

The problem isn't the strategic threat, think smaller . . .

(you can buy GPS guided drones that can fly, without human intervention, along a pre-planed route, with up to 125 waypoints. Imagine the possibilities....)