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Never Used the Malaysian, My m14 likes the German Surplus. only bad thing its not boxer primed and not re-loadable. If for SHTF and your M14 likes the rounds get some but i would get some brass thats re loadable.
 

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I prefer the German MEN surplus from Wideners. Buy some...you will not be disappointed. Fantastic surplus. About as accurate as FGMM, no joke.

I wouldn't worry about whether boxer primed....I for the life of me cannot reload rounds except for matches. Takes way too long and is rough on the hands. And my hands are only 37 years old. Look around....German NATO surplus is phenomenal.
 

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I prefer the German MEN surplus from Wideners. Buy some...you will not be disappointed. Fantastic surplus. About as accurate as FGMM, no joke.

I wouldn't worry about whether boxer primed....I for the life of me cannot reload rounds except for matches. Takes way too long and is rough on the hands. And my hands are only 37 years old. Look around....German NATO surplus is phenomenal.
Amen...I thought I was the only one that did that.It's rough on my ol hands too, so I use German most of the time.
 

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Don't write off the Malaysian. Here is report on shooting the Malaysian 82
http://m14forum.com/ammunition/101818-malaysian-dag-308-a-2.html

More than enough to clean the SR target. If you replaced the MilSurp bullets with 155 match bullets you have an excellent match grade ammo comparable to the ones you can buy highly overpriced.

Here is a report on Malaysian ammo with MilSurp bullets replaced.
http://m14forum.com/ammunition/101492-anyone-want-some-mk-319-mod-0-130-grain-bullets-2.html

All groups were shot with irons at 200 yards with sling and jacket, not from the bench.
 

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Research, still the best game in town......

1, M118LR Lake City from 2003. Top score of 200-13X, on a SR-1 NRA standard 100 yard target, 1-20 round mag only with my NM M1A.
2, German DAG, surplus from 1993, 200-12X <<<<<.
3, M118SB Lake City from 1963, 200-10X.
4, M852 Lake City from 1988, 200-10X.
5, Radway Green surplus from 1990, 200-10X.
6, M118SB Lake City from 1985, a 199-12X.
7, Australian MF surplus from 1966, 199-10X.
8, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1979, a 199-10X.
9, Radway Green surplus from 1985, 198-12X.​
10, Belgium surplus from 1977, 198-10X.
11, Bosnian surplus from 2003, 198-10X.
12, Radway Green surplus from 1995, 198-8X
13, South African surplus from 1980, 198-6X.
14, Santa Barbra surplus from 1980, 197-14X.
15, Argentine surplus from 1983, 197-8X.
16, German DAG, surplus from 1976, 197-8X <<<<<.
17, Austria surplus from 1980, 197-6X.
18, Greek surplus from 1980, 197-6X.
19, German MEN 41, surplus from 1969, 197-6X <<<<<.
20, Singapore surplus from 1986, 196-11X.
21, Israeli surplus from 1974, 196-10X.
22, Australian ADI surplus from 1988, 196-8X.
23, Bosnian M118 surplus from 2003, 196-8X.
24, Yugoslavia surplus from 2002, 196-6X.
25, Malaysian surplus from 1982, 195-6X <<<<<.
26, Malaysian surplus from 1983, 194-9X <<<<<.
27, Lithuanian surplus from 2003, 194-6X.
28, Yugoslavia surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
29, Venezuelan surplus from 1989, 194-2X.
30, Denmark, surplus from 1993, 193-2X.
31, Canadian, surplus from 1970, 192-8X.
32, Chilean, surplus from 1976, 191-4X.
33, Portuguese m/963 surplus from 1978, 190-4X.
34, Austria surplus from 1978, 190-3X.
35, South African surplus from 1981, 189-1X.
36, Pakistan military surplus from 1979. Score of 188-4X.
37, Indonesian surplus from 1985, 187-1X.
 

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Obviously he rezeroed. No way all that ammo is going to have the same POI.
 

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XXIV Corps

When you shot all that different ammo, did you use the same sight setting for all the loads or did you re-zero your rifle for each different load? No, lol
I'm on my second barrel on my NM rifle NE450N02. I have only re-zeroed the scope twice in the rifles life, once per barrel, both times I used Lake City Match surplus ammunition from the 1960's for this. It works great for me from 100 yard targets out past 600 yards.DI5

When I test a new military surplus ammunition from a different country or year, I hold dead center on first round. I note the impact location on the first round and adjust the POI where the 2nd round should hit the bull's eye dead center when fired. Then I'm off to fire the remaining 18 rounds. Most still call this "Adding a little Kentucky windage".

NE450N02, your the first person to ask that question of me in over 10 years. I have a log book that describes each military surplus ammunition I have tested with my NM M1A, year, lot, first round hit location, and of course where the sweet spot should be for the next first round from a cold barrel shot to hit dead center ever time. It doesn't aways work perfect, but the numbers are still on my side for this working ~90% of the time.DI5
 

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Obviously he rezeroed. Nope.
No way all that ammo is going to have the same POI.Your right.
I just add a little Kentucky windage from my log book, gets me to the 10 ring or dead center each time hammonje.DI5

P.S. Yes, sometimes I find the 9 ring more than I would like also!RNGR4
 

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I just add a little Kentucky windage from my log book, gets me to the 10 ring or dead center each time hammonje.DI5

P.S. Yes, sometimes I find the 9 ring more than I would like also!RNGR4
You are obviously one hell of a shot there XXIV Corps!!!!! I am an iron only guy so I couldn't pull it off. Thanks for all the data you provide. Saves us all a lot of money!!!!!

Any idea why they call it Kentucky Windage???? Being a native Kentuckian, I ought to know this....
 

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You are obviously one hell of a shot there XXIV Corps!!!!! I am an iron only guy so I couldn't pull it off. Thanks for all the data you provide. Saves us all a lot of money!!!!!

Any idea why they call it Kentucky Windage???? Being a native Kentuckian, I ought to know this....
hammonje, it's scope and glasses that I use to see the targets anymore. I wish I could just use old iron sights again.

Kentucky Windage I think came from the days of the Lone Rifles made in Kentucky 1700-1800's. They were the best for lone range shooting, just add a little Kentucky Windage to hit the targets.DI2
 
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