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I'd emulate the specs of my 3-gun champ friend's AR:
18 inch Scout. Sadlak and GI internals. Trijicon Accupoint 1-4X (green) on Sadlak airborne mount. Whatever is MOST effective muzzle brake.
If you live in a free state, perhaps a Vltor Modstock (easier to reload in three gun with pistol grip, and can raise your buttstock to see through scope.
1X for run and gun stages, 4X good for the 300+ yard shots.
 

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I thought there was a different division for the old guys who like to beat themselves up with their "real" rifles? GI2
There is. The "He-man" division. You are only allowed to use a 7.62x51 or 30-06 battle rifle, a .44 caliber or 45 acp handgun, and a 12 ga shotgun. I am pretty sure you are not allowed optics in "He-man" divison and your shotgun has to be a pump.

There is also a new class emrging called "Trooper" . Here you have to carry EVERYTHING with you... all firearms, all ammunition, your water and your food for the entire days event.

An ideal setup for me would be a 1-4x scope if you are shooting in the "tactical" divison, other than that just open sights. I would most likely NOT use my Sage EBR stock to keep down on the weight and just use a USGI fiberglass stock.

SWFA SS is coming out with a new 1-4x scope that has mil/mil adjustments and a mil recticle on the first focal plane. The price is to be around 700 dollars which is a steal coompared to the S&B or IOR equivalents.
There are going to be 2 different reticle choices:
100 yards 12" gong



500 yds, 18X24" Gong:




Illumination on 1x:

 

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There is. The "He-man" division. You are only allowed to use a 7.62x51 or 30-06 battle rifle, a .44 caliber or 45 acp handgun, and a 12 ga shotgun. I am pretty sure you are not allowed optics in "He-man" divison and your shotgun has to be a pump.

Yes, thats what i'm planning on doing. I have my m1a and my 1911 I just need to aquire a shotgun. I really like that second reticle GI3 ! I believe i'm required to use iron sights tho.. . I'll have to look again.
 

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Increased recoil is going to put you at a disadvantage compared to those kids and their damn 5.56 squirt guns!
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Not realy, the match I have shot had a power factor. the 308 does not kick, it's all in your head! Last time at the range , a couple of swat officers were playing with their rat guns, they were eyeing my socom , so I asked it they wanted to shoot it. They loved it and were nice guy's so I broke out my 470 double rifle and my 505 gibbs bolt action. The 470 shoots a 500 gr brass solid at 2150 fps for about 90 lbs of recoil and 5000 ft pounds of engery, the 505 shoots a 535 at 2400 fps for 100 + pounds of recoil andm 6k +for foot lbs. Recoil and engery is close, but I haven't looked it up in a while. After a couple of light loads , I let them fire full house loads in the double and almost max loads in the gibbs. I had given a little coaching on how to handle the recoil.

Glad to say neither guy dropped my rifles, I am glad to say they hit close to where they were aiming. I handed them back the socom after the second mag, I asked if they were noticeing the recoil , they replied what recoil.

One of them asked if the double was out dated and really usefull.

I fired two shots from a low gun mount,on their target at 15 yards.

Both shots in the x ring in just a little over a second from a low gun.

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I just use mine like it is.

The major power factor definitely helps a bit with the scoring.

I shoot M14 1911 .45 acp & 12 guage.

All iron sightsGITEN
 

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There is. The "He-man" division. You are only allowed to use a 7.62x51 or 30-06 battle rifle, a .44 caliber or 45 acp handgun, and a 12 ga shotgun. I am pretty sure you are not allowed optics in "He-man" divison and your shotgun has to be a pump.

Yes, thats what i'm planning on doing. I have my m1a and my 1911 I just need to aquire a shotgun. I really like that second reticle GI3 ! I believe i'm required to use iron sights tho.. . I'll have to look again.
I always wanted to put on a 4 gun match , Starting off you would find and engage 4 or 5 long distance targets with a sniper class rifle

Haveing done so you would bug out finding targets and fighting your way down a trail (with battle rifle and pistol) to a clearing house.

There you would take a shotgun from a fallen enemy
shooting your though to the other side useing hand gun and shotgun

That would be fun

JD
 

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There is. The "He-man" division. You are only allowed to use a 7.62x51 or 30-06 battle rifle, a .44 caliber or 45 acp handgun, and a 12 ga shotgun. I am pretty sure you are not allowed optics in "He-man" divison and your shotgun has to be a pump.

There is also a new class emrging called "Trooper" . Here you have to carry EVERYTHING with you... all firearms, all ammunition, your water and your food for the entire days event.

An ideal setup for me would be a 1-4x scope if you are shooting in the "tactical" divison, other than that just open sights. I would most likely NOT use my Sage EBR stock to keep down on the weight and just use a USGI fiberglass stock.

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He man is right! I thought I had seen that on one of the gun shows. And now a new level for those who can still walk by the end of the day? That's crazy!GI8
 

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I used a standard M1A for my first 3 gun a while back... had national match sights but otherwise stock. Did fine. The length was a bit unweildy on some of the "shoot through barrier" stages but otherwise it was fine.

Videos here for those interested. TONS of fun.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsl8PnaOos[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx3rZzS8Ouo&feature=related[/ame]

Recent 3-gun vid using a Colt SP-1 (**warning: language NSFW in this one)

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilqWGSEmVWc[/ame]
 

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I've used mine in a few 2 gun matches with irons (I don't have a shotgun...yet...), didn't do too bad considering everybody else was using ARs with red dots.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9hH-X6IUD4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9hH-X6IUD4[/ame]
 

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I used a standard M1A for my first 3 gun a while back... had national match sights but otherwise stock. Did fine. The length was a bit unweildy on some of the "shoot through barrier" stages but otherwise it was fine.

Videos here for those interested. TONS of fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsl8PnaOos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx3rZzS8Ouo&feature=related

Recent 3-gun vid using a Colt SP-1 (**warning: language NSFW in this one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilqWGSEmVWc
Yes I watched all your videos and the links you provided in the other threads. They were entertaining P_G I went to the links you provided for (upda?) SInce I live in Sandy and am not too far away I was thinking about trying a match, i would be in the .308/.45/pump 12 division too
 

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I always wanted to put on a 4 gun match , Starting off you would find and engage 4 or 5 long distance targets with a sniper class rifle

Haveing done so you would bug out finding targets and fighting your way down a trail (with battle rifle and pistol) to a clearing house.

There you would take a shotgun from a fallen enemy
shooting your though to the other side useing hand gun and shotgun

That would be fun

JD
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Yes I watched all your videos and the links you provided in the other threads. They were entertaining P_G I went to the links you provided for (upda?) SInce I live in Sandy and am not too far away I was thinking about trying a match, i would be in the .308/.45/pump 12 division too
You should come out for sure. The next 3-gun is March 19.
http://udpl.net/results/index.html

The handgun matches are a blast as well.FRG1
 
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