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When everybody talks about going to the range it always brings back memories of the rifle range of 1966. It was preparation for Viet Nam. Interestingly enough I still have my Marksmanship book that we used for Combat training at Fort Leonard wood. I will share with you the first and later shots I fired on the rifle range in 1966

19 and drafted- One of my biggest troubles with the M!4 was that when I shot my steel pot would hit the rear sight and knock the elevation to 0. It happened because I was such a light fella' and the recoil hit me a little harder than the hefty guys. Range officers made me turn the steel pot to shoot.

Pvt. Kortuem at 19 pic



the book was a small pocket sized pamphlet that fit in the top pocket, small enough to get the button closed
Book Cover



The first pages covered sight pictures. Remember: When ya' get drafted half the guys have never handled a rifle like an M14.

sight pictures and 3 shot groups)









Heres the page where we recorded our "Battle sight "0" elevation 14 -- windage 0 Ser. No. #1447345


(Notice the 7 digit Ser. No. (My M1A Has 6 digits)



Here are some of the first period (Days) of shots I made in basic training. This was flip up targets not fixed targets. Notice that my partner is marking the impact of the round. (is this rifle shooting Right or what)


(Better rethink that battlesight 0)


Fixed targets looked like this





here is a drawing of our "free shoot" Target range. Before we started blasting the range people would make us write down the distance of the flip up targets so we could get a grip on distance


(Everything is in Meters)


This is a little later on. Things are going better because my misses are in many different directions.


There are many more pages of interest in the pamphlet but this gives you an idea of the military way of running a rifle range.
What fun....................SP/4 Twiggy
 

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I do rememba ..... :wink:

Especially the BRASS ....

Breath
Relax
Aim
Sight
Squeeze

What memories hey?

Thanks for sharing sir ... :wink:

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That is quite handy..and especially so when it comes from the guy who was there and did it instead of finding this at some garage sale or gun show.

Thanks for taking the time to share it with us!
 

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dz86: Heres the second page: Its just for you




given your Signature you should recognize this .........SP/4 Twiggy
 

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Hey Twiggy:

This is a great thread, and that second page for dz is perfect! I never saw the real deal before!

Thanks for sharing that page!

Aloha,

Tom O.
 

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If ya' liked that what do you think of this:



2-S is a student. as soon as it expired i became A-1 and what do ya' think happened then..................I showed this to my kids the other day and they diden't know what it was...............
 

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steel pot hitting rear sight

Had the same problem in the Army - steel pot would hit the rear sight.

It turns out that the problem is caused by the suspension system in the helmet.

Oregon Aerosmith is a company that makes helmet suspension systems, jet air craft seats and similar products. I have modified a couple of current helmets with the Oregon Aerosmith products and do not have a problem with the rear sight on M1As going out of adjustment.
 

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Well I just did a search on DDGo M14 Qualification US Army....trying to find out what distances we qualified at in 1966. Your post came up. Of course your post was in 2003, that was 17 years ago or so. Your pictures did not show up when I opened your post. I am a member here, logged in.

Still I shot "expert" and that having never shot a high power rifle prior to first shooting this rifle. I remember knocking down 3 targets at various distances in about 5 seconds. One was way out there....the furthest, and I believe it was 300 yards. Was trying to verify the longest qualification distance.

Even though no pics in your post, it was fun to read. Memories.
 

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1966 was a very good year. Issued my first M14 in February, issued my wife in August. M14 is long gone, but I still have the wife.
 

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old shot- the old Army 40 round qualification had pop-up targets from 50 to 300 meters. I shot mine with M16-A1s in the late 70s to early 80s.

The Marines qualified out to 500 yards on a KD range.
 

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I went to basic training in the winter of 1968 - not a good time conflict wise. I, too, qualified out to 300.

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1963 qualified expert, summer Ft Ord. Proud moment. I remember missing some silohuette targets close up front, searching the "way back" and being prompted "open your eyes dud". Yes long ago far away.
 
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