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Hi, I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I have some general questions regarding my particular M14/M1A. It is a Fulton Armory Service Rifle. I have put the Fulton Armory Brookfield type mount with a IOR Valdada 4x14 tactical scope with the illuminated MP-8 reticle. It currently sits in a GI stock as well.
My question is basically what other modification would you recommend? I do not think this will ever be a thousand yard gun, since the furthest distance I have to shoot is about six-hundred yards.
I know a good bit about M14s, and guns in general, but I know there are people here with A LOT more experience with M14 type rifles than me. Any input is much appreciated, thank you.
 

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I know you're an 11b and have a hard time reading, but search and you'll find hundreds of answers to your question and answer those you never knew you had.

Some say do nothing but shoot it, others say mod the hell out of it.

Find ammo it likes, slowly mod to ensure they actually help.

Shim, op rod, ebr, list goes on and on.
 

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Hahaha 11B jokes are always plentiful. I am just trying to ask around for some general mods, I am deployed so I have some money to play with in a month when I get home. I just do not want to buy mods without knowing well and good what it is. I do not plan on ever shooting matches with it. I would like to be able to reliably hit a E type silhouette out to 800-900 meters.
I have no had the chance to see what it can do yet. It very well may be able to do it as it sits.
I thought I would just ask around and get the opinion of people who know more about the system than I do.
 

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From what I have gathered so far after joining this sight, Not very long ago...

Every m14 seams to react differently to all the different mods. You really have to get your hands on your rifle and see what you are working with. My rifle needs a few mods due to it having a crappy stock, loose gas lock, bolt roller impact, no draw pressure, and probably more that i havent found yet! With all those things, so far all i have done is shim the gas cylinder. Most of the guys around here recommend doing 1 mod at a time and seeing how it affects your rifle. It helps you keep gaining accuracy with out getting buried in mods and parts that you will have to go back through when you fail to get the results you want.

Other than that, poke around and you will find some good info around here. Welcome and let us know how it goes GI1
 
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How does it shoot now? Are you just wanting accuracy upgrades, or are you looking to make it an EBR platform?

I'm not sure what mods Fulton does on the service rifles out of the box, but shimming the gas lock seems is a popular and cheap way to increase accuracy. There are also other National Match mods you can do to increase accuracy.
 

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Welcome to the forum 11B1P! We're glad to have you. To answer your question about modifications let's be sure of the current condition of your rifle. I learned a lot from Tonyben's videos, that's a good place to start:

http://www.youtube.com/user/tonyben3/videos

Op rods can be a real pain, this video will help you:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoZIK9ft_3U[/ame]


The only part I replaced immediately on my Springfield was the extractor. Get a USGI one and keep the other for a spare. A Sadlak spring guide is a good second purchase. Next you need ammo. I wouldn't modify anything more until you're better than the rifle. I'd plan on shooting at least 200 to 300 rounds. After this (and a bunch of reading here) you'll have a good idea what you need to do but you'll also know the rifle is operating OK, it's broken in and you're used to the rifle. Now you'll be ready to modify what you think it needs. I hope this helps you!
 

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Hahaha 11B jokes are always plentiful. I am just trying to ask around for some general mods, I am deployed so I have some money to play with in a month when I get home. I just do not want to buy mods without knowing well and good what it is. I do not plan on ever shooting matches with it. I would like to be able to reliably hit a E type silhouette out to 800-900 meters.
I have no had the chance to see what it can do yet. It very well may be able to do it as it sits.
I thought I would just ask around and get the opinion of people who know more about the system than I do.
11B Jokes....Well if your not in the Infantry you are just in another support unit....
 

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11B Jokes....Well if your not in the Infantry you are just in another support unit....

Hahaha that is the God's honest truth GI5

As for my plans with this rifle, I do not intend to go the EBR route. I am a bit of a sucker for that old, slightly dinged walnut stock. I really just want it to be as accurate as possible in its current configuration, without losing the GI mil-spec type reliability.
I do appreciate all the input, thankfully given my really really really boring mission here in Kosovo I have plenty of time to start reading up on my facts.

jbkf1003: To answer your question, it shoots very respectably right now. Right around the 1.25-2 MOA mark depending on what kind of ammo I feed it.

Still getting used to using the forum so forgive my somewhat disorganized quoting ability haha.
 

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11B Jokes....Well if your not in the Infantry you are just in another support unit....
YEP. We have a saying that every Marine is first and foremost a Rifleman.

One of the greatest quotes I ever read concerning that came shortly after Marines took delivery of our first F18's. They interviewed a full Colonel Squadron Commander after he took his first test flight in one. When they asked him what his job was, he replied, "Marine Rifleman, currently driving an F-18." That went "viral" all over the Corps.
 

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I wish the Army had that rifleman mentality, but alas if your are not infantry in the Army you tend to forget you are actually military.
 

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From what I have gathered so far after joining this sight, Not very long ago...

Every m14 seams to react differently to all the different mods. You really have to get your hands on your rifle and see what you are working with. My rifle needs a few mods due to it having a crappy stock, loose gas lock, bolt roller impact, no draw pressure, and probably more that i havent found yet! With all those things, so far all i have done is shim the gas cylinder. Most of the guys around here recommend doing 1 mod at a time and seeing how it affects your rifle. It helps you keep gaining accuracy with out getting buried in mods and parts that you will have to go back through when you fail to get the results you want.

Other than that, poke around and you will find some good info around here. Welcome and let us know how it goes GI1
+1 on what he says. I'm new to the platform too. Baby steps would be my advice. read, read, read. Then shoot, shoot, shoot. Ive picked up a copy of the USMC, NG, and US Army manuals for accurizing service rifle for match use.
Trigger time will be the tell though.
 

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+1 on what he says. I'm new to the platform too. Baby steps would be my advice. read, read, read. Then shoot, shoot, shoot. Ive picked up a copy of the USMC, NG, and US Army manuals for accurizing service rifle for match use.
Trigger time will be the tell though.

Yes I am currently nose diving into every M14 related book I can find!

Also I finally got my dad to send me pics of my rifle, so I will have some gunporn here in a bit GITEN
 

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Get some rounds down the bore -
find the ammo your girl likes....be religious on break in of the bore and consistent with your marksmanship basics - optics or none.

couple hundred rounds....with ammo she loves (you will know when they are eating something they like - its magic the way the groups snap to)

then....get on here - ask these M1a Studs how to tighten things up more - with some sample targets/ranges of how she is shooting....
the folks on this forum are awesome....

but do your part first - once you get back home....you know the Benning Drill...

marksmanship
good care of your weapon and in the civi world you can get good ammo she likes, not just whatever is being served to you from a green can at the range.


now.....about your other "statement" there young stud....

I wish the Army had that rifleman mentality, but alas if your are not infantry in the Army you tend to forget you are actually military.
Not to sure you want to say that to a 12B too loud - that spent 2 and 1/2 decades in light infantry units.

:ARM28:

Humped every mile, jumped every aircraft, every long range night and day infil and when the **** got nasty and the enemy decided the 11b's werent going any further - I was stupid enough to get between em to clear a path ....(yes my mom raised a fool)

why they call Combat Engineers educated grunts I will never know....

what we were talking about?

sure Id love another beer....and yes a refill on the chips and dip would be great.


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11B Jokes....Well if your not in the Infantry you are just in another support unit....
Don't forget that the 'King of Battle' can reach out and touch the bad guys when they're someplace where you don't want to go. Of course, we always had trucks haul our ammo, so maybe your point still stands...
 

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Get some rounds down the bore -
find the ammo your girl likes....be religious on break in of the bore and consistent with your marksmanship basics - optics or none.

couple hundred rounds....with ammo she loves (you will know when they are eating something they like - its magic the way the groups snap to)

then....get on here - ask these M1a Studs how to tighten things up more - with some sample targets/ranges of how she is shooting....
the folks on this forum are awesome....

but do your part first - once you get back home....you know the Benning Drill...

marksmanship
good care of your weapon and in the civi world you can get good ammo she likes, not just whatever is being served to you from a green can at the range.


now.....about your other "statement" there young stud....



Not to sure you want to say that to a 12B too loud - that spent 2 and 1/2 decades in light infantry units.

:ARM28:

Humped every mile, jumped every aircraft, every long range night and day infil and when the **** got nasty and the enemy decided the 11b's werent going any further - I was stupid enough to get between em to clear a path ....(yes my mom raised a fool)

why they call Combat Engineers educated grunts I will never know....

what we were talking about?

sure Id love another beer....and yes a refill on the chips and dip would be great.


Sapper
We do have a couple Sappers that roll with us, I will say you guy are on the same crazy level as us. Our rivalry and competition is a little kinder spirited than other MOS'.

I give mad props to the guy who low crawls under machine gun fire to go plant a bomb on something.

Yes chips, beer, and dip would be awesome now!
 

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why they call Combat Engineers educated grunts I will never know....

Sapper
Don't know about the educated grunt comment, but I spent 6 years as a combat engineer and was referred to as a "grunt with a shovel" the whole time. And was damn proud of it!

Enjoy your rifle and thank you for your service!!
 

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We do have a couple Sappers that roll with us, I will say you guy are on the same crazy level as us. Our rivalry and competition is a little kinder spirited than other MOS'.

I give mad props to the guy who low crawls under machine gun fire to go plant a bomb on something.

Yes chips, beer, and dip would be awesome now!
I'd be interested on your opinion of 68W/Combat Medics? Surely, you give your Doc some love. GI1
 
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