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Gonna be interesting - Winchester signed a 7 Year contract in 2019 with the Army when it took over Lake City operations, and I understand "surplus sales" (beyond the needs of the DoD) to the civilian market is part of that contract. If true, the question is whether Winchester has the will to seek a restraining order or will fold like a paper target.
Ever see a .gov contract ?? It has more holes than a target at an all minigun F/A shoot. They have clauses written in which basically allows them do/change almost anything at will. The only redeeming quality for the other party is that it's a guaranteed income stream for the term of the contract.
 

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My friends the sad fact is that voting is a joke and all of us should know that by now. We have no true say in anything. America has been taken over since the blatantly STOLEN Election of 2020. And all elections in the future will end the same damn way. The same crappy voting machines are being used and our judicial system is also a complete joke and fully corrupt like the entirety of these dying United States. But wait we have the FBI & the DOJ, yeah right. They are ultra corrupt dog $hit as well. Friends our entire damn country has been taken over - is that not known by most at this point?
Exactly right!
 

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She stomped the competition with a 35% voter swing if I have it right Nez. I would say those hard working folks have had enough.
Contrary to popular belief the Hispanic US Citizens, that were either born here to US citizens, or went through the legal process of becoming a US Citizen, do not like the illegals coming here.

Where I work 90% of the employees are Hispanic, either already citizens or are working on their citizenship, when they catch wind of a new employee being an illegal they will point them out.
 

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Huh?

Drag Queens in School
Gun Control
Inflation
High Gas Prices
Defecit Spending
FBI Overreach
Election Fraud
Repeated release of repeat offenders
Promotion of Riots
Abortion
Sexual Indoctrination of Children
Critical Race Theory
Mask Mandates
Shot Mandates
Green Agenda
Tech Censorship
Tech Privacy Invasion
Red Flag Law
Government Corruption
Revisionist destruction of Art
Multiple Government Pensioners
Term Limits
Defunded Police
Student Loan Forgiveness
Government promotion of gambling
Open Borders
Government Sponsored Drug Abuse Havens
Target organized harassment of Supreme Court Justices homes and families.
Same for any other citizen.


And Air Conditioning of Schools
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Yep! Thats my 1 issue also.
 

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OMG... We really have someone who believes the "stolen election" nonsense!

I've got a post that talks about the 2020 election, but it is languishing in limbo "awaiting moderator approval" -- I'm not sure if the message is staying invisible because I had the temerity to point out that it was gun owners who elected Biden or because I pointed out that Wayne LaPierre was the driving force behind the bump stock ban.
LOL it was FAKE voters (and probably some dead ones too) who "elected" Biden.

"2000 Mules" comes to mind......poo-poo it if you want but please try and disprove it. The accompanying camera footage of POS dropping multiple ballots in the drop boxes is a nice touch. I have been a political junky since the 2000 election debacle. Kind of my "Super Bowl" every four years. I watched 2020 like every other. Trump ahead, but mysteriously the counting stopped at o'dark thirty (which I don't recall ever happening before, you count until results are in) and when it resumed Biden was magically ahead. Hmmm......

It didn't have to be nationwide or "widespread", just carefully targeted to certain swing states and more specifically to their inner-city counting centers run by scum who forced out election observers, closed blinds, etc. Oh yeah, buttloads of ballots pulled out from under tables (oops, forgot to turn off the cameras), etc.

I hope if the same shenanigans occur again....well let's just say I hope I sit on the jury of those who might be accused of busting counting center heads. NOT GUILTY.

You are either a liberal or a never-Trumper. Spare me your last 40 year voting record, I don't care. I wasn't a huge Trump fan but the Left hated him so it made me want him. I DESPISE the Left. I would like to see them destroyed permanently. I hope Trump does not run again, I'd like to see DeSantis. That said, by rights Trump should be sitting in the Oval Office right now, not Potato Head.
 

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Winchester isn't selling ammunition to the military from any of the Winchester factories. Winchester is managing the Lake City Ammunition Plant which is owned by the government.
Not exactly correct. Winchester built a new facility to ultimately replace the East Alton, IL plant and that new facility is dedicated to military ammunition production. The headstamp used by the new facility is "WMA" which is "Winchester Military Ammunition." So, yes, Winchester is selling ammunition to the military from Winchester factories.
 

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Winchester isn't selling ammunition to the military from any of the Winchester factories. Winchester is managing the Lake City Ammunition Plant which is owned by the government.
The Winchester plants in Missouri and Mississippi are making ammunition for the military. The headstamp is WMA and the 2 digit year. All examples I have seen looked like 3rd world rejects. No nickeled primers.
 

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I can only hope that all this craziness starts to subside after November....
It won't happen in my opinion. Things may get slightly better after the elections but their are too many stupid and corrupt people in the District of Columbia. Robbers infest some of the highest seats in our land. The swamp out east is in desperate need of a cleansing. Our government is becoming more and more like a corrupt country like Brazil. Rulers rule by the few and for the few.

Good news is there are about 35 decent State governments that protect or somewhat protect our liberties. I hope you are in a State that guards the people's liberties. Make friendships of people you can rely on, get food storage (at least six months to one year), water filters and ammo storage. Have multiple firearms and train. You are going to need it. (And I hope my predictions on the future are all wrong.)
 

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God I can only hope that all this craziness starts to subside after November....
Now that’s funny.
Waiting for The GOP to save the day is like having brunch with McConnell, Cornyn, Chaney, Romney, Collins, Murchowski, Kissinger.

I’d rather go to the dentist for a root canal.


Those that voted for bill:

  • The bill's co-sponsor, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas
  • Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
  • Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri
  • Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina
  • Sen. Shelley Capito of West Virginia
  • Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
  • Sen. Susan Collins of Maine
  • Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa
  • Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
  • Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
  • Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio
  • Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah
  • Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina
  • Sen. Todd Young of Indiana

  • They just told you to take your 2A rights and stick it up your rear end.
 

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"Surplus" ammunition is such that has been inspected and accepted by the military. It is released when it is no longer needed. Surplus USGI ammunition has not been released to the public since 1994. Some blame Clinton, but I haven't seen anything regarding an executive order.

The fodder coming out of Lake City for retail sale, by either Federal or Winchester, is believed to have been rejected by the military.

I suspect a lot of the Winchester WMA ammunition on the market is in the same category.

If this order goes through, the ammunition in question will most likely be demilled and sold as components.
 

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Now that’s funny.
Waiting for The GOP to save the day is like having brunch with McConnell, Cornyn, Chaney, Romney, Collins, Murchowski, Kissinger.

I’d rather go to the dentist for a root canal.


Those that voted for bill:

  • The bill's co-sponsor, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas
  • Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
  • Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri
  • Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina
  • Sen. Shelley Capito of West Virginia
  • Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
  • Sen. Susan Collins of Maine
  • Sen. Joni Ernst of Iowa
  • Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
  • Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
  • Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio
  • Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah
  • Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina
  • Sen. Todd Young of Indiana

  • They just told you to take your 2A rights and stick it up your rear end.
So what do you think would be going on now if democrats had super majority in house and senate? Look beyond the tree and see the forest. This country could be going through what Germany went through in 1938 and 1939 with an unchecked political party that had weaponized their law enforcement agencies (read fbi, doj, cia, etc.) to do their bidding for them. Every time I turn the TV on I see members of this administration spouting out lies that make me think "what the hell...is anybody really believing this" and the sad thing is majority of this country does. Now if the same "members" had unchecked power to pass their radical agenda, we would indeed be living in a country that would closely resemble what socialist Germany looked like during the late thirties into early forties with the common people having no voice and even more importantly, no freedoms whatsoever.
 

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It won't happen in my opinion. Things may get slightly better after the elections but their are too many stupid and corrupt people in the District of Columbia. Robbers infest some of the highest seats in our land. The swamp out east is in desperate need of a cleansing. Our government is becoming more and more like a corrupt country like Brazil. Rulers rule by the few and for the few.

Good news is there are about 35 decent State governments that protect or somewhat protect our liberties. I hope you are in a State that guards the people's liberties. Make friendships of people you can rely on, get food storage (at least six months to one year), water filters and ammo storage. Have multiple firearms and train. You are going to need it. (And I hope my predictions on the future are all wrong.)
I'm not saying we would all of a sudden be living in a utopia, but rather the party of biden, pelosi, schumer (lower case used for lack of respect), and the squad wouldn't be in the majority telling the people in the flyover states how to think and live.
 

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The craziness will escalate.
They never howl louder than when they are pushed back.
Like a petulant child after a well deserved spanking.
It is a character trait of the arrogant entitled Left.

Look at Liz Cheney begging for democrats to change their party affiliation to circumvent the primary process and vote for her. She wants the democrats to choose the Republican candidate.
 
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