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It sounds really bad when you put it like that. I don't want violence, I want peace. I want to be left alone, for the Gov't to abide by the Constitution and stick to what they are supposed to be doing. The question had been raised, how do we get out of this mess when voting has been rendered meaningless. We have been transformed from a Representative Republic into a defacto Democracy. The big cities get to impose their will on the entire rest of the country. Perhaps splitting into 2 or more countries might be the answer. I don't care for that scenario either, but it's back to "what are we going to do". Your solution, please.
 

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The only option I see left without total civil war is if the military remembers their oath to protect and defend the Constitution and begins military tribunals, but that seems unlikely with the leadership they have.
A Coup; I read it the same way as you do Phil. A Coup is how Gorbachev was displaced in the Soviet Union. I look for something like that to happen in Russia to displace Putin in the near future, but not here in the USA.
 

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It sounds really bad when you put it like that. I don't want violence, I want peace. I want to be left alone, for the Gov't to abide by the Constitution and stick to what they are supposed to be doing. The question had been raised, how do we get out of this mess when voting has been rendered meaningless. We have been transformed from a Representative Republic into a defacto Democracy. The big cities get to impose their will on the entire rest of the country. Perhaps splitting into 2 or more countries might be the answer. I don't care for that scenario either, but it's back to "what are we going to do". Your solution, please.
What you have described in passed posts is a coup, my recommendation like others have said before me if you want change too come it’s working the system from inside. There is nothing the Dems have done that can’t be unwound it will hurt for a bit, but the people (Dem’s) just haven’t had enough pain yet too see the light.

And with that said, I think this tread had run it course.
 
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