[Night Stalker]

Im looking at this pic and dont see the front band, so I fig its not needed on this stock, is this correct?

 

[NoExpert]

None of the Sage stocks use the front band. It's replaced with either shims or a crush washer. Patriot Armory 308 can make a custom shim to replace the currently supplied crush washer, I went this route and it's much better.

 

[H2O MAN]

It is so very right!

Im looking at this pic and dont see the front band,
so I fig its not needed on this stock, is this correct?

I've used shims on SAGE stocks since 2004 and they work great.

I tried the crush washer SAGE switched over to and had problems with it, these problems were solved when I installed shims.
The custom Patriot Armory 308 shim NoExpert mentioned looks like a winner.

 

[IRONMAN]

+1 on the shims, my buddy had problems with crush washer

 

[Therealkoop]

So the SAGE is basically free floated? The JAE and TROY have some kind og adjustable block correct?

 

[Different]

Sage International, Ltd. M14 EBR stock - The USGI front band is not used and there is no replacement front band. Instead, a shim or crush washer is used as a spacer between the barrel shoulder and the gas cylinder as pictured above. Most Sage M14 EBR stocks have a barrel tenisoning screw but there are some that do not, e.g., U. S. Marine Corps M39 EMR stocks (late second generation Sage version). The USGI operating rod guide is replaced with a Sage operating rod guide.

Troy MCS - The MCS Mod 0 and Mod 1 stocks have a barrel band guide that replace the USGI front band. The Mod 0 stock has a barrel tensioning screw, the Mod 1 stock does not. The USGI operating rod guide is retained.

JAE-100 - The G1, G2, and G3 stocks retain the USGI front band. There is no provision for a barrel tensioner on the G1 stock but it is an option for the G2 and G3 models. The USGI operating rod guide is retained.

 

[NoExpert]

The Mod 0 stock has a barrel tensioning screw, the Mod 1 stock does not.

Is that correct? All the Mod 1's I've seen have it...

 

[Different]

Is that correct? All the Mod 1's I've seen have it...

Both the Mod 0 and Mod 1 stocks have the twin tension screws for the firing mechansim but the barrel tensioner was omitted on the Mod 1 stock.

References: 1) Troy Industries MCS Mod 0 manual 2) Troy Industries MCS Mod 1 manual 3) correspondence with LAW483.

 

[NoExpert]

DOH! I'm an idiot. My mind cut out the Troy MCS part and just saw Mod 0 and Mod 1. My mistake Different, you're right.

 

[Green66Chevelle]

I was messing around with my rifle a few weeks ago getting ready to change muzzle devices and noticed I could spin my crush washer by hand...

Rifle is going to SEI very shorty for some upgrades anyways so they'll take care of me RNGR1