What ammo was doing the nose dive? Only one mag tested?
I sort of agree, although the AR platform has had a ton more product improvement. In reality, the AR and M14 platforms are two completely different rifles, and each have their own strengths and weaknesses.The only problem with this comparison is that both rifles were pretty much designed at the same time, Yes the M14 was designed around the M1 Garand but it was not a finished rifle until the 50's.
Eugene Stoner was working on the AR design in the 50"s as well, In fact you could buy a AR 15 long before you could buy a M1A semi auto rifle so in reality you are comparing a old AR to a younger M1A.
I like both and that is where I stand! besides I cant afford to keep a M1A at every door but...
Thank you for that and other gems. Have I mentioned that I appreciate both you and your contributions?I'd take the magazine apart and rotate the spring, back to front.
I think that if your criteria is, "Is it just like what the real 'Army Men' still use", while it had a resurgence and slow retirement, the 'yes' component of that gradient is inevitably fading, and probably mostly gone.Relevant? As my former wife used to say: Does a bear poop in the woods?
I am seeing M110s and SCARs still in use by premier shootas. Big army even adopted the HK M110A1. SCAR H is enjoyable and it’s super lightweight. If I had to choose, money wasn’t an object, and it was just a tool to keep me alive, I would just pick up one of the guns I listed above. BUT I just think the M14 is coolerI have been thinking about this post for a few days. I have written and deleted a few responses. Here is what I have finally come to: name a better battle rifle for 2022, including the ability to incorporate all the modern upgrades that are just expected on a military rifle these days, than the M14. Here is my take.
The FAL? Great rifle with an amazing service record, but very hard to modernize. Mounting optics on it is a small nightmare. Mounting all the other accessories is almost a non-starter. For these reasons first world countries have almost universally replaced it.
The G3? Again, great rifle. You can modernize it - if you have a spare $1500.00 for a complete SPUHR upgrade kit that replaces all the furniture. To be fair, the M14 needs parts replaced also to bring it into the modern era. However, there are several options and they are generally cheaper. The G3 is viable if you have the money, so I will give it that.
The AR-10? To be clear, I am referring to modern 7.62x51mm AR platforms here, not Stoner's original AR-10. They keep trying to put them in military service, and they keep finding durability problems that make them undesirable. They are very accurate and do work well as a specialist's rifle, most notably as a semi automatic sniper system. But as a rough and tumble battle rifle, they just are not preferred.
That leaves two Western rifles that can stand with the M14.
The SCAR-H was specifically designed with input of SOCOM to be a lighter battle rifle with modern ergonomics to replace the M14. It is a great rifle, but for the price, you can kit out an M14 with the chassis system and optics mount of your choice. The SCAR-17 civilian version has also proven to be cantankerous with any barrel length other than 16 inches. The SCAR will turn out lighter, so if you want the absolute optimum 7.62mm NATO battle rifle and are willing to pay top dollar, it is the number one pick.
The new M5 is the other one, but they are unobtanium at the moment. The new cartridge offers some real advantages over 7.62mm NATO, but a 22" M14 in 6.5 Creedmore can almost keep up with the ballistics.
If you want to go comm block, you have the Dragunov and its derivatives. They tend to be difficult to modernize, and obtaining parts and ammo is difficult and expensive in the West. They are good rifles in their own right, but not superior to the M14.
So I would conclude the M14 is completely viable in 2022. It's not the latest and greatest, and it is heavier than many competitors. But in spite of all the undeserved hate it gets in gun media, it remains one of the best battle rifles you can get your hands on. You can hang as much stuff on it as any AR if you are willing to put it in a modern chassis or stock. If you need a battle rifle, you can do worse than the M14.
Spring looks good. I bent the spring in a big C shape and it resolved the issue for now. The parkerizing is rough so it’s probably not letting the follower move freely with normal spring pressure.Acts like the spring is in backwards allowing the follower nose to dive,
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the dead end loop of the spring should be to the rear.
I could be wrong on that, (old guy memory) but hopefully someone else will chime in,,,,,,,,,,
At the very least , try spring and follower out of a properly functioning mag and see how that goes.
Be sure and take note of spring orientation as they come apart.
mark the parts out of the troubled mag with a sharpie or something similar as it is easy to get confused ,
When you have more than one apart at a time.
Check the sides of the follower and the insides of the magazine for signs of drag or rub marks.......
Definitely don't just pitch it, it could be something simple as a broken spring etc.
CheckMate mags are good stuff !
I think a little detective work will have it back up and running! Good luck and let us know what you find.
What actually prompted me to finally go for the M1A I always wanted was the adoption of the Sig M5. I am extremely comfortable with the M4/M16 and wanted to see why they went back to a full power battle rifle. In a near peer scenario we might only be using a red dot operating at night, or long distance during the day? Battle Rifle is what they chose!My $.02, I agree it's absolutely still relevant, and always will be, even long after the last one rolls off the production line.
The AR platform didn't make battle rifles obsolete - it made pistol caliber carbines, SMGs, and PDWs obsolete. Anything a pistol caliber carbine can do, an intermediate rifle cartridge carbine does better. Similar recoil and handling characteristics, superior terminal ballistics.
It does not shoot from prone, and/or at 300m+ better than the M14/M1A.