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I acquired this from a friends estate the other day, I bugged him for it for years before he passed away, I was surprised to hear from his family the other day with a call saying come and get it , it's yours, if you want it. It's a naval salute cannon, I started the restoration process on it yesterday, and spent all day working on it today, I need a firing pin for it, if anyone knows where I can get one or have a set of prints so one can be made I would appreciate any information. Here are some pictures before and some work in progress pictures as well.







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Is it the photo or is the barrel out of round so it can't fire a projectile ? Very cool by the way.
Good eye, the barrel at the muzzle is slightly bent, must have been dropped sometime in it's life, easy enough to repair if I wanted to, but I am going to leave it as is, this is a signal cannon, not intended to fire projectiles out of it, it's a smooth bore barrel. From what I was told by a old timer that has restored his share of cannons, these were used on naval ships to announce their arrival in port. I am guessing this one to be late 19th century , probably around 1890's.
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Its got a butt stock. Made to fire without the mount I presume. :)
Bob
Maybe for Paul BunyanDI5
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Very cool Sir!! Q for ya Pappy. Obviously the concrete in the base was put there to help free standing stabilization. What do you plan to bolt her down to??
It has probably 4" thick round piece of wood that it was mounted to, I will sand it and refinish it for a pedestal, I believe it should suffice for stability. Maybe my wife wont mind if I bolt it down in the living roomDI5

The buttstock and sight blade make me think it had a more practical use- line throwing perhaps ?

Firing pin aside, what are you going to use for a cartridge?
A 37mm cartridge sits flush in the breech, I have some spent CS cartridges that will work perfect and they are reloadable also.
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Same gun, different mount?

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/437271445057739497/

Sale 232 Lot 84 LINE THROWING GUN - Bronze Naval deck mounted, breech loading line throwing gun made by The Naval Company Roslyn (Philadelphia) PA, model M, size 3, type Y, s/n 333. SOLD$6,000 #linethrowinggun #naval

Searching for <line throwing gun> certainly brings up pics of M14.
That looks just like it, less the pedestal mount and stock, not sure if the barrel is bronze on this one though, I start that project this week, all the small parts have been polished with Brasso, mount is all ready to be put back together. And I am shocked what that one sold for, thanks for the link.
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Bore is much larger than a 37mm, I will be contacting that Naval Co. tomorrow to see if they're the same company.
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Some additional pictures as we progress.





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If there is any "Patent" information, you could possibly do a patent search, which if found, would have line drawings, and dimensions for the various parts, such as your firing pin. I know this is a path a lot of gunsmiths use when dealing with an old firearm, they are trying to restore.
I actually had a chance to speak to the owner of the Naval co. today, they were extremely helpful and they are helping me with identification as well as parts, it's amazing that this is still a family business after all these years, super nice people, they also set me up with a historian that mainly deals in these salute and line cannons, waiting to hear back from him.

If it does utilize 37mm "brass", I think I still have a shoe box full of various spent cases. If that ends up being the size you need, and I still have them, you can have them.

I will look.
Bill, thank you for the kind gesture. I will let you know. Appreciate it!
Nice restoration. What did you use to brighten up that brass barrel? Looks good.
I'm a old Infantryman, only one thing I would use... Brasso!! I bought 2 bottles and had a flashback of my youth, so Brasso and attitude got it to were it's at, no machines, no buffers just elbow grease and a few cold ones in between to help with the arthritis.DI2
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Pappy, you got me interested. And I've got 4 feet of 2" diameter bronze propeller shaft. Salute cannon here I come!

10 ga, because there is less chance of anybody having a projectile ammo around. A 1/4 turn interrupted screw thread like later Howitzers. Bottle shaped barrel like the Dahlgren 9 inch shell gun. Carriage can come later, I'm thinking steel ala WWI ?

That's a hell of a law ornament, I hope you're neighbors like you if you get one..lol
Is there some thing on the Data plate on the breach or is it worn off?

Casey
It's wore off, nothing visible.
Thanks for the link, looks like I am going shopping, YAHOO!!

I agree is is a line throwing gun, OR, possibly modified as a harpoon gun.

Were there ANY markings on it anywhere? The butt stock looks like it may have been added on by someone at first glance, not original to the design.

This was actually a salute cannon, the design is all original, they replicated the early deck mounted guns of the time. The markings on the tag are wore off, but I spoke with the owner of the company that produced it and verified that it's one of their early pieces and they offered to letter it as such, which I happily agreed.
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Spent the day drinking beer and polishing, it was a good day!





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I wonder if the back side of the tag would show a shadow of what used to be on the front? Held on by screws or rivets?
Held on by screws, I tried to remove the plate but decided not to when I noticed that they were not budging, I spoke to a old timer that has the same piece in his collection and he said that his was blank as well, I know what it is and with a letter from the company to authenticate it is fine for by me, I would just like to know the exact year it was made, he stated late 1800's, around 1895 or so.
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A little update on this project, I received a letter from the company authenticating the cannon and this one was one of the early ones that were made in NY, the company is still looking for some parts that I need and they said they have a bunch of old parts left over from the cannon building days, but they have been under construction for 6 months and can't access the area that all the old parts are stored in. I was in need of a firing pin for this cannon, Naval Co. may have a original for me, we shall see, but in the meantime I had a friend that took on the project to make me one that I can use for now until I find the original.

I have also found a gentleman in Florida that has a CNC shop that reproduces shell casings, I am having him make me up 25 cases that use 209 primers, hopefully will have a good 4th of July this year.
Here is a picture of the firing pin.
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Final product and location, looks great in the living room, wife just loves it.. HAHAHA!
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Sure she does GI2
She has put up with me going on 29 years, nothing surprises her anymore, I did have to move it at Christmas for the tree though, but it's back in the same spot now.DI5
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Looking to buy a flat bed truck or a boat?
I am thinking it would look nice mounted on a John Deere GatorDI5
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Been working on having cases made for it, I just received one for trial before I have a larger batch made, the original case is from a 37mm Hotchkiss round, it was computer scanned and then made on a CNC machine, fit was perfect, primer pocket is for a standard 209 primer, I have loaded up one case but have not test fired yet.


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I found out that aluminum casings are a NO GO at this station! as well as I need sandbags or make a pintle mount for my deck so I can take the gun without the carriage and mount it..
Link to the first firing video https://www.tiktok.com/@terryanna70/video/6827872637230796037



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