As recently as 4 or 5 years ago you could get the aluminum ones for [email protected], too, if you bought 100.After the ban expired (2004) I bought 100 Steel ones for $100 with free shipping. I still have them, for the 5 Rifles that I own. Some of those were NIW, most were Like new. 3 or 4 were dented. Were wrapped in oiled "German" newspaper. - Kind of cool.