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Funny how the other side can openly promote violence, robbing, burning, killing cops, reducing cities to ruins, defunding the police, promoting doing away with law and order, etc.
We can’t voice our opinions w/o fear of reprisals? It is hard to believe we have gotten forced into this rabbit hole with seemingly no way out...
 

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The wheels have been turning since before the banking crisis. The crisis was a manufactured event. If some everyday working people would of set up a ponzi scheme like the old or current one overseen by the federal government lengthy prison terms in the gulag for you. Bankers have been building licensed ponzi schemes since Roosevelt and 1933.

For now the Dollar is the monetary system. The second that the government stops printing cash or coin and goes to debit system complete control over everyday life will be complete. No more hiding money. No more "adjusting" your taxes. No more cooking the books.

And yes you will comply. And there will be debtors prisons that will be international. The international world government will have one potentate that will be chosen by who ever has the largest population. No more war, and if there is a dispute it will be settled by a roll of the dice. Loser pays with people to be enslaved by the winner.

Government controlled debit cards, being programmed now. And the coding being done by the worlds bankers and the world politicians.
To MuleSkinner88's point...individuals in society have to be bold enough to stand up and when the time comes to act...otherwise you will comply.

Take the "mask mandates" for instance, I'm not a masker, I've been in many places where the air concerns me more than the possibility of Covid...and I won't even get on the actual science of it. I don't wear one except on rare occasion when I have to go somewhere and if I don't wear a mask, I'm refused service. I don't care if you want to wear one, wear it. Get vaccinated, don't care...I won't. If that restricts certain things I can do, fine. I'll still eat, shoot, work (most of the time) and take care of the family...at least for the moment.

I recently came across this quote and I understand it was attributed to: ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

That paragraph has weighed in my mind for some time and I wonder...do WE love freedom enough...?

Simply, my point is, at some point we must stand up for it to "never happen" (tobbycat). This country did prevail once, but hard and principled men existed then and frankly, I believe men and women of that constitution are becoming fewer and fewer. Worse yet, they are outcasts that are ridiculed for being unwavering and rigid, uncompromising... Why should I compromise my principles for your feelings...I don't give a sh*t how you feel...your feelings don't govern my life or how I live it.

If the progression continues as it appears it has in my short 4.5 decades of awareness, there won't be enough "men" to prevail once again... We, as society, have to open our eyes and make the choice. "They" are working against us and are plotting our demise as Patriots. Erosion (of anything) is a terrible enemy, I see it on many a job site. My clients often call me too late to save significant construction and expense because it (erosion) was slow and progressive until it wasn't. By that time, it's too late. That's what I see in my (and I think our) America now. Anything that is done to right the ship will be significant and "expensive" on many levels.

All the best folks and stay safe.
 

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To MuleSkinner88's point...individuals in society have to be bold enough to stand up and when the time comes to act...otherwise you will comply.

Take the "mask mandates" for instance, I'm not a masker, I've been in many places where the air concerns me more than the possibility of Covid...and I won't even get on the actual science of it. I don't wear one except on rare occasion when I have to go somewhere and if I don't wear a mask, I'm refused service. I don't care if you want to wear one, wear it. Get vaccinated, don't care...I won't. If that restricts certain things I can do, fine. I'll still eat, shoot, work (most of the time) and take care of the family...at least for the moment.

I recently came across this quote and I understand it was attributed to: ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

That paragraph has weighed in my mind for some time and I wonder...do WE love freedom enough...?

Simply, my point is, at some point we must stand up for it to "never happen" (tobbycat). This country did prevail once, but hard and principled men existed then and frankly, I believe men and women of that constitution are becoming fewer and fewer. Worse yet, they are outcasts that are ridiculed for being unwavering and rigid, uncompromising... Why should I compromise my principles for your feelings...I don't give a sh*t how you feel...your feelings don't govern my life or how I live it.

If the progression continues as it appears it has in my short 4.5 decades of awareness, there won't be enough "men" to prevail once again... We, as society, have to open our eyes and make the choice. "They" are working against us and are plotting our demise as Patriots. Erosion (of anything) is a terrible enemy, I see it on many a job site. My clients often call me too late to save significant construction and expense because it (erosion) was slow and progressive until it wasn't. By that time, it's too late. That's what I see in my (and I think our) America now. Anything that is done to right the ship will be significant and "expensive" on many levels.

All the best folks and stay safe.
Even those who have been “convinced” that the socialist path they are being led down at present is the “utopia” they have been waiting on and looking forward to...they will not love and appreciate sweet Freedom and Liberty until it has has been taken away from them and they find it will be almost impossible to get it back, that is if we are foolish enough to allow it to be taken away in the first place.
 

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To MuleSkinner88's point...individuals in society have to be bold enough to stand up and when the time comes to act...otherwise you will comply.

Take the "mask mandates" for instance, I'm not a masker, I've been in many places where the air concerns me more than the possibility of Covid...and I won't even get on the actual science of it. I don't wear one except on rare occasion when I have to go somewhere and if I don't wear a mask, I'm refused service. I don't care if you want to wear one, wear it. Get vaccinated, don't care...I won't. If that restricts certain things I can do, fine. I'll still eat, shoot, work (most of the time) and take care of the family...at least for the moment.

I recently came across this quote and I understand it was attributed to: ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

That paragraph has weighed in my mind for some time and I wonder...do WE love freedom enough...?

Simply, my point is, at some point we must stand up for it to "never happen" (tobbycat). This country did prevail once, but hard and principled men existed then and frankly, I believe men and women of that constitution are becoming fewer and fewer. Worse yet, they are outcasts that are ridiculed for being unwavering and rigid, uncompromising... Why should I compromise my principles for your feelings...I don't give a sh*t how you feel...your feelings don't govern my life or how I live it.

If the progression continues as it appears it has in my short 4.5 decades of awareness, there won't be enough "men" to prevail once again... We, as society, have to open our eyes and make the choice. "They" are working against us and are plotting our demise as Patriots. Erosion (of anything) is a terrible enemy, I see it on many a job site. My clients often call me too late to save significant construction and expense because it (erosion) was slow and progressive until it wasn't. By that time, it's too late. That's what I see in my (and I think our) America now. Anything that is done to right the ship will be significant and "expensive" on many levels.

All the best folks and stay safe.



I would like to add that it was not the many that STOOD against the British but the FEW. And were so labeled many things most of which was not Patriot.

The fledgling Colonies that became a Nation was because of tyranny, nothing more. Had the King been more conservative and not such an autocrate perhaps the Colonies would still be beholden today to the Crown.

And the few, who I could go into detail but not on this thread, were "turncoates" of sorts. Why? Tyranny above all, Thank the King. The very thing that makes these United States unique makes us Independent. At least used to be.

The Federal Government is not to be lording over the population, but the many want the government to "look" after their everyday lives. Not Me, I want Freedom not Tyranny. I will be in control over my destiny and if ever the day comes when I have to choose between my Brothers of Freedom or the oppression of overlords of Tyranny I will stand forth as I am prepared to parish for what I believe in.
 

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I would like to add that it was not the many that STOOD against the British but the FEW. And were so labeled many things most of which was not Patriot.

The fledgling Colonies that became a Nation was because of tyranny, nothing more. Had the King been more conservative and not such an autocrate perhaps the Colonies would still be beholden today to the Crown.

And the few, who I could go into detail but not on this thread, were "turncoates" of sorts. Why? Tyranny above all, Thank the King. The very thing that makes these United States unique makes us Independent. At least used to be.

The Federal Government is not to be lording over the population, but the many want the government to "look" after their everyday lives. Not Me, I want Freedom not Tyranny. I will be in control over my destiny and if ever the day comes when I have to choose between my Brothers of Freedom or the oppression of overlords of Tyranny I will stand forth as I am prepared to parish for what I believe in.
Well said! Amen! 🙏🇺🇸🙏
 

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Gentlemen, discussing subjects like this on formats which ARE collected in metadata is akin to sticking your "manhood" into a live light socket; it ain't going to end well...
This the antithesis to successful social change, running and hiding so that you wont get in to trouble is counterproductive and self-destructive. You can't win if you don't voice your opinions. It's time that people with your attitude get off the fence, you can't be passive and win a fight.

Study Mao Zedong's theories on revolution and you'll find that the first thing you have to do is communicate between the people and then organize in line with their needs, you can't do that if you aren't talking to each other. Any government that is afraid of the people voicing their complaints is a tyranny.
 

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This the antithesis to successful social change, running and hiding so that you wont get in to trouble is counterproductive and self-destructive. You can't win if you don't voice your opinions. It's time that people with your attitude get off the fence, you can't be passive and win a fight.

Study Mao Zedong's theories on revolution and you'll find that the first thing you have to do is communicate between the people and then organize in line with their needs, you can't do that if you aren't talking to each other. Any government that is afraid of the people voicing their complaints is a tyranny.
You are spot on with your analysis and evidence presented. Much like taking prisoners, you keep them separated so they can’t communicate and devise plans to the contrary! We are in fact in the middle of a tyrannical take over if we don’t take a stand before it’s too late. Divine guidance and lots of 🙏”Kneeling” 🙏 will guide us! We must get back to our Founders’ principles
If we are to survive as a Republic!
 

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We would no longer be our own Nation. The Constitution would not be worth the paper it is written on.
Kind of like now. Don't think the Constitution matters much to those in Washington, unless its to give lip service to it, or when it useful for them to use against us or their other enemies.
 

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You guys are very knowledgeable on many subjects affecting our rights. Biden is giving indications he is for the so called Global Reset. What are your thoughts on what impact it would have on our Nation if the globalists have their way?
Global Reset?? HAHA!! The last I heard, the People's Republic of China was still on our same Global Planet!! Good Luck, Quid Pro Profits Joe O'Biden in Trying to Reset the PRC, Russia, Iran, Syria, and of course, North Korea!!
 

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Joe will just reset us back to United States 2nd relative to everyone else. That's still a collective global reset in a way. Just doesn't require any successful diplomacy etc, anywhere else.
 
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