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As the title states,I'm looking for up to date opinions on 9mm ar style carbines. I've used the search option and gleaned what I could from it,but there are always new products and new users to the platform. 9mm only please,I have my reasons. Not whether or not you'd own one,because I will regardless. Prefered brands,configurations,etc. Any and all input along those lines is appreciated. Thanks!
 

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It's whatever floats your boat. I'm not up on the pistol caliber AR's but you ought to look at the thread "effective range of 9mm" in the Handguns forum. He shoots a Kel-Tech Sub2000 at 400 yards with iron sights, and I saw one yesterday when I was at the range. Not a bad looking carbine.
 
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My vote is for Rock River Arms they make an excellent product and it uses UZI mags.
I had one that ran flawlessly. GI2
 
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O&T I have a CMMG Mk9 LE 9mm AR and I really enjoy it. I put on a Slide Fire stock for even more fun!



This is a dedicated 9mm AR, not a drop in. I think that the dedicated 9mm works better in the long run than a drop in, JMHO. This rifle shoots any thing that I put in it although it seems to prefer one brand of mag over others although I have three brands of mags and all do work, there is one that I would depend on if I had to. This rifle uses the same mags as the Colt 9mm carbines. This is a fun gun for me, I have other AR's in 5.56mm.

For a 9mm carbine that I would depend on if I had to, I would pick this out of my safe,



It is a Beretta CX4 and has magazine interchangeability with my 92FS. The CX4, I think, handles better in 9mm than the AR and is more compact. I think that if I took the Slide Fire stock off of the rifle and replaced it with the factory or Magpul furniture than it would handle better. If you are used to the AR platform and want a 9mm, I do recommend the CMMG. 9mm carbines do have their place, the round has better ballistics out of the longer barrel, they are compact, easy for most people to operate and hit what they are shooting at, out to an effective range, defensive and offensive capibilities
 

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If I wanted to buy a 9mm carbine, I would go with the Beretta Cx4 Storm.

just enough rail space
reversible operating handle, safety and magazine release
adjustable length of pull
and the other stuff Glashaus mentioned

From what I've read, unlike other AR's, the Cx4 Storm is blowback or recoil operated, so you won't have a filthy action.
 

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Thanks guys,keep em coming! I'm currently leaning toward CMMG and a kel Tec. Gotta sell off m1a and associated stuff due to physical constraints,need something more appropriate for my bony self and getting new shooters on board. Hate to give up m1a,but my kid won't appreciate it for what it is and I think I've found a good home for it. 9mm seems to fit the bill. And lower the bills. I shoot a LOT.
 

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The cx4 looks sweet,but I'm going ar because while I've qualified with one,I've never owned one. Will eventually have one in 5.56 too,time permitting. And maybe the cx4 eventually if I'm lucky. Do I sound greedy? You know the deal; so many guns,so little time.
 

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Stag Arms just came out with their own 9mm rifles:

Specifications:

9 & 9L

16” heavy barrel, 9mm chamber, and 1/10 twist rate
A2 flash hider
Diamondhead drop in modular handguard
9mm trigger which has a Mil-spec trigger pull
Carbine buttstock and A2 pistol grip
No sights

9T & 9TL

16” heavy barrel, 9mm chamber, and 1/10 twist rate
A2 flash hider
Diamondhead free float handguard
9mm trigger which has a Mil-spec trigger pull
Carbine buttstock and A2 pistol grip
Diamondhead aluminum front & rear flip up sights

The rifles accept standard Colt style 9mm AR magazines which insert into the integrated magazine well in the lower receiver. The integrated magazine well won’t come loose or have feeding issues accompanied with drop in magazine blocks.

And of course, they offer those in left hand configurations as well.



http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...om-stag-arms-model-9-and-9t-9mm-ar-15-rifles/
 

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Many years ago I had an SGW dedicated 9mm AR carbine. It used converted Sten mags. I traded if off during the AWB. If I was to buy one today it would probably be a Colt (if they still make them).
 
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Many years ago I had an SGW dedicated 9mm AR carbine. It used converted Sten mags. I traded if off during the AWB. If I was to buy one today it would probably be a Colt (if they still make them).
I have an Oly 9mm top half, and a mag block that allows me to use unmodified Sten mags. I like the fact that it is 'plug-and-play' with a standard .223 lower - no special hammers or other parts required. I dislike the Sten mags, as most anyone who has ever used them will probably agree. The major downside to the Oly 9mm is that parts are proprietary, and only available from Oly Arms - Colt-type 9mm parts are not interchangeable.
 

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Neat gun but all the disadvantages of a pistol without the advantage of a rifle.
I disagree. A 9mm rifle offers more stability than a pistol and offers a wider variety of optics. The longer barrel increases the effective range.
 

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9mm is a completely different round out of a 16" carbine barrel, the ballistics are very similar to a .357 mag in a handgun. 9mm in a carbine makes a lot of sense for a HD weapon, easy to use, effective out to longer ranges, less dangers of over penetration than a 5.56 or 7.62.
 

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I have two that I like. Both are deadly accurate and incredibly reliable.

1. CZ PO1 http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-01-9mm-black-alloy-14-rd-mags/
2. Kahr MK9 http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-MK9.asp

Both are excellent choices.

I've had a Beretta Model 92 Compact, also an excellent pistol. To me it ranks well with the above.

http://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-compact-with-rail-inox/

I would add a Browning HiPower to the list. I got it to take to Vietnam but it was much too nice to take over there.

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=007B

I don't think that you would regret any of these.

PS - While not a 9mm, I carry a CZ 83 in my vehicle all of the time that I picked up for $211.00. It goes with me everywhere here in Texas.

http://www.impactguns.com/cz-83-cal-9-mm-browning-glossy-blue-cal380-auto-01301-806703013015.aspx
 

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I have two that I like. Both are deadly accurate and incredibly reliable.

1. CZ PO1 http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-01-9mm-black-alloy-14-rd-mags/
2. Kahr MK9 http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-MK9.asp

Both are excellent choices.

I've had a Beretta Model 92 Compact, also an excellent pistol. To me it ranks well with the above.

http://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-compact-with-rail-inox/

I would add a Browning HiPower to the list. I got it to take to Vietnam but it was much too nice to take over there.

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=007B

I don't think that you would regret any of these.

PS - While not a 9mm, I carry a CZ 83 in my vehicle all of the time that I picked up for $211.00. It goes with me everywhere here in Texas.

http://www.impactguns.com/cz-83-cal-9-mm-browning-glossy-blue-cal380-auto-01301-806703013015.aspx
 

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I have a CMMG dedicated 9mm carbine that has been very reliable and accurate. It is a lot of fun to shoot. I purchased the parts new from CMMG
and the AR15 Forum. It was a lot cheaper than an assembled rifle and easier to build than any rifle caliber AR I've built. I've shot several Colt 9mm and liked them, but for a plinker I decided to go the much less expensive route, although I love my Colt M4 and SP1.

BL; I'm very satisfied with the CMMG.
 

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Thanks guys. Went with the CMMG,no regrets. Accurate, reliable,FUN,relatively inexpensive to shoot. At least til my kid gets behind it. He'll probably slow down a bit when he's buying the ammo.
It uses colt style mags,the rest of the gun is compatible with pretty much anything you can get for an ar 15. Which of course means it will be a work in progress for a bit. That,as we all know,is a good thing.
 
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