E2 rear sling swivel, fake or USGI?
Thank you for your observation, and no not as yet on extras. Not a whole lot of detailed info out there on the M14 in this configuration, if it were of German design I bet there would be.Never had a real stock apart - yet.
Just examined my known repro set - and the ones you have posted appear to me to be much more complex machinings/forgings. The repros are just a factory M1/M14 swivel machined bigger to take a bushing and the tab flattened. If you look at the work put into the ones in the pictures - I doubt if someone faked all that. The "raised pad" is much bigger, the overall machining smoother. Looks like Uncle Sam's work, anyway.
I'd bet GI. Does he have any extras? I'd sure take one if price not too silly.....! CC
Is it possible that the one in question was an original M14 standard swivel that someone drilled out to accommodate the E2 eyelet. That is what it looks like to me.E2 rear sling swivel, fake or USGI?
Greg,OK, I'm not going to tear my stocks apart to get pictures,and you don't have to believe anything I say but here goes. There were two types of rear sling swivels on the E2 stock. For lack of better words--type 1 (early) and type 2 (later). In the OPs picture type 1 is on the left and type 2 is on the bottom and right. The type 1 used a rounded threaded bushing to thread the lower buttstock screw into as shown in Rens picture. The type 2 used a triangular shaped threaded bushing. The type 2 made it easier to put in the lower buttstock screw as the bushing would not spin when you threaded the screw in. I own both types, I did make a drawing a few years ago of the E2 buttstock screws and the bushings--it is attached.
Greg, that's the only bushing I've ever seen in Ren's pics until you posted your photos, and that one does make sense for sure.Well after revisiting your picture there must be 3 types, as the swivel in the left of your picture would have the bushing completely inside of the swivel. It would be the same bushing that's in Rens picture.
Am I correct to infer that Brown & Sharpe manufactured the M14E2/M14A1 butt swivel and bushing?M14E2 and M14A1 stock butt swivel (pn 11010046) - rounded or chamfered corners, hole may or may not be countersunk but is at least 0.311" Yup, wide to accommodate a bushing (pn 11010047)
Lee, Brown & Sharpe told me the same, 0.311" on the two, but the one on the upper left mic'd out at 0.316 with a counter bore of 0.423".
I agree. I think the left of was originally a regular swivel that was milled out. The ones on the right look similar to what I have. Mine all have a round insert....Is it possible that the one in question was an original M14 standard swivel that someone drilled out to accommodate the E2 eyelet. That is what it looks like to me.
I took all the swivels from my stocks out to compare them to the ones I posted in this thread and to yours and this seems possible to me.