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Buddies got a p100d I think, big 4 door Tesla, we live right behind firebird raceway in Phoenix, he’s not the kid in the white Tesla racing all over YouTube, but he has the car semi gutted, panels, trunk, rear seat. You have to ride in one to appreciate its acceleration in the 1/4 mile. Thing launches like a friggin rocket. With both of us in it, I’m 5’11, 6 foot 210. And he’s about 5’8 180ish, the 3 times I’ve ridden with him at Friday night drags in some Ludacris mode app or something, we’ve hit a 10.8 at around 116/118 if I remember correctly, I know he’s hit a 10.6 for sure solo, but in the 1/4 the things a monster. The high hp power cars like the demon and zr1 start catching up at the end of the track but it’s their 60ft that kills them. This Tesla Doesn’t even need the tires hot to launch it just goes. It’s got top end power but it’s not like a big turbo car, my wife’s Audi s6 twin turbo v8 can kill his Tesla over 100mph from a roll, but 1/4 mile she’s not even in the same league as it. These lithium cars are gonna get crazy in the next few years. Saw a 1 off 6 speed 900 hp electric mustang at sema, also had a Ford F-150 electric they had on a billboard sign pulling a million pounds of train cars on a train track, but it was just some ad they had our for it. The Tesla hauls ass, but for the 80k+ he paid for it I’ll
Buy another ford raptor when the 7 liter v8 eventually makes its way back into the truck. Sold my 2014 raptor for a 2017 and hated it, turbo v6 that never stopped shifting with its 10 speed tranny. It was faster and had better suspension than my 2014 when it was stock but Just didn’t feel like a real truck. Hate that ecoboost
 

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Remember the ford Pinto...
Yeah, I was thinking about that today....

The Pinto burst into flames when hit with substantial force from the rear enough to crumple the car, a lot of car accidents are not that violent in the first place. Also after the media's bull crap was exposed and data was looked at across the board, the Pinto wasn't much worse incident/fatality wise than small compact cars made by all manufacturers of the era.

The Tesla on the other hand, it is documented that Teslas are catching fire all on their own. People have been killed in it because they couldn't get out and because emergency services can't get them out because of "technological" hidden door handles or some nonsense. A car bursting into flames isn't surprising for a $2000 car (Pinto) with 50 year older technology, but does not make any sense for a $94,000 car. GI9

https://www.thedrive.com/news/28420/parked-teslas-keep-catching-on-fire-randomly-and-theres-no-recall-in-sight

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-tesla-cars-catch-on-fire-2019-4

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-11-01/federal-safety-agency-launches-investigation-of-tesla-battery-fires

https://money.cnn.com/2018/06/18/technology/mary-mccormack-tesla-fire/index.html

https://electrek.co/2019/06/01/tesla-fire-supercharger/

https://electrek.co/2019/04/21/tesla-bursting-into-flames-video/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tesla-driver-killed-fire-doors-model-s-trial-elon-musk-a9169691.html

https://driving.ca/tesla/model-s/auto-news/news/tesla-spontaneously-combusts-in-shanghai-parking-garage

https://electrek.co/2019/08/12/tesla-autopilot-brakes-model-3-crash-explosions/

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/2152644/tesla-model-s-caught-fire-florida-hit-speed-116-mph

etc. etc.
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The actual study data says otherwise: A gasoline or diesel powered car is equally - or slightly more likely - to catch fire with an internal combustion engine than a battery powered car:

https://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news/companies/electric-car-fire-risk/index.html

Are electric cars more likely to catch fire?

The simple answer is probably not. Chances are they might even be safer, though it's tough to say that definitively.

"The propensity and severity of fires and explosions from ... lithium ion battery systems are anticipated to be somewhat comparable to or perhaps slightly less than those for gasoline or diesel vehicular fuels," according to the results of an in-depth investigation into the relative fire risks of the two types of vehicles conducted by Battelle for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration last fall.

About 174,000 vehicle fires were reported in the United States in 2015, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the National Fire Protection Association. Virtually all of those fires involved gasoline powered cars. That works out to about one every three minutes.
The facts are that automobiles with internal combustion (IC) engines have been catching fire and burning to a crisp for over 100 years - since the advent of the Ford Model T and it’s predecessors. Even today, car fires occur about every 3 minutes. It is so common that the media doesn't report on it unless someone is killed. Some tiny percentage of Tesla's have caught fire too, but unlike other traditional IC cars, it gets reported in the news, as its new technology and Tesla's detractors or competitors no-doubt want to push a negative story line. But the most recent empirical analysis shows the risks to be equal or slightly lower with a Tesla or other electric vehicle (EV).

Here's an experiment: I can pretty much guarantee that if you went to your local fire Dept and asked the Fire Chief these two questions, here is what you are likely to hear:

Q: How many automobile-related fires did you respond to last year in 2019?
A: Plenty (regardless of whether its an urban, suburban or rural area)

Q: How many of those fires were based on a Tesla battery catching fire?
A: Probably none. (or maybe one if in a mega city like NY or LA).

...after all, gasoline in its natural state is a highly flammable liquid and easily combustable - whereas lithium is not. My 2cts on the fire hazard topic.

When it comes to safety, only a seriously inattentive driver or a full-blown idiot will crash a Tesla at speed. Why? All Tesla's since the Model S have an honest-to-goodness forward facing radar system, and about a dozen acoustic sensors that provide safety related information and crash avoidance technology in real-time as you drive down the road.

I've had my Model 3 for just over a year and those systems have alerted me to hazards on more than one occasion. For example, once in a very heavy rain at night on I-66, my car automatically moved over to the edge of my center lane just as a large tractor-trailer truck came speeding up beside me in the left lane and had accidentally drifted into my lane - and I only saw his headlights in my lane just as the collision avoidance system activated and turned the wheel slightly to avoid getting clipped on the left rear end of my car. This startled me as I had never felt the steering wheel move automatically before that night - but that safety-based technology might have saved my bacon...

So, the battery doesn't bother me, and I actually think its one of the safest cars on the road given how the system works in an integrated fashion, but that's just my opinion. (I confess that I can also quietly out accelerate pretty much everything on the road except the pricey exotic cars...but I digress....)
 

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I like the notion of Teslas, both in urbane environs and in space.

They save gas, that I need for my V8 pickup.
 

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You know, in a few years when colonies on Mars are established, Teslas will be useable there. They don't need air to work.

The Apollo moon buggies were electric too, and that was before these great lithium-ion batteries we have now. If you treat them right, they don't burn. ;)
 

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The actual study data says otherwise: A gasoline or diesel powered car is equally - or slightly more likely - to catch fire with an internal combustion engine than a battery powered car...
Of course a gasoline powered car is more likely to catch fire.

That's the same as saying a fireworks factory is more likely to catch fire lol.

My point was, and it was really just for a laugh, was that people have been saying how much a piece of crap the Pinto was for catching on fire. But that was only when it was smashed from the rear with enough force to total the car. And it only cost $2000.

The Tesla is catching fire by itself just while sitting there. And it's "the greatest thing since sliced bread" It's $75,000 to $95,000. I guess I'm the only one that sees the irony. GI9
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