[jc89]

Got a 22" LRB Medium Match with Criterion-made Saco-Lowell chrome moly barrel coming.

Have read good reviews of Hirtenberger, but haven't found as much regarding the jacketing and any effects on barrel/throat wear.

www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x...146-grain-fmj-hirtenberger-surplus-ammo-1970s

Edit: Not sure if the Hirt is actually copper washed. Says it's bimetal, berdan primed.

Will this be increase wear compared to copper ammo?

 

[Dougboffl]

Don't know about the wear issue but is it Berdan primed?


SGAmmo's write up:
960 round case of 7.62x51 NATO 146 grain FMJ Hirtenberger surplus ammo for sale at SGAmmo.com. 1970s Vintage military surplus ammunition that is non-corrosive, surefire, Berdan primer, magnetic FMJ 146 grain bi-metal projectile with lead core. This type of Surplus 308 ammo is known to be very accurate and of good quality.

 

[32639]

Do a search we talked this issue about a week ago.

In the mean time be very careful. Reports are that it takes only one or two magazines of that stuff to completely ruin a good barrel.

 

[XXIV Corps]

Do a search we talked this issue about a week ago.

In the mean time be very careful. Reports are that it takes only one or two magazines of that stuff to completely ruin a good barrel.

http://m14forum.com/ammunition/249041-copper-plated-steel-jackets.html

DI5

 

[32639]

I was joking.

 

[Eagle7840]

I was joking.

Shame on you for scaring off shooters just because you want all the Hirt to yourself.

 

[M1AFL]

Here's what I know, I shoot it in my Standard M1A, NM M1A and CMP M-1 Garand .308 Special without issues of any kind.

I only wish I could afford to buy more of it. Clean burning and accurate.

As posted on other threads: 1980 head stamp and newer is Boxer Primed. I believe that 1979 and older is Berdan Primed, I know for a fact that 1975 is Berdan Primed.


But, on the other hand, if you do not buy any, there will be all the more left for the rest of us!

 

[XXIV Corps]

Here's what I know, I shoot it in my Standard M1A, NM M1A and CMP M-1 Garand .308 Special without issues of any kind.

I only wish I could afford to buy more of it. Clean burning and accurate.

As posted on other threads: 1980 head stamp and newer is Boxer Primed. I believe that 1979 and older is Berdan Primed, I know for a fact that 1975 is Berdan Primed.


But, on the other hand, if you do not buy any, there will be all the more left for the rest of us!

What I have found...

Austria, '75, [ HP ], Berdan, three star crimp with dark green primer sealant or red primer sealant. Other HS's H
Austria, '78, [ HP ], Berdan, three star crimp with no primer sealant visible.
Austria, '79, [ *79* ], Boxer, three star crimp with light green primer sealant. * 79 * 7.62x51
Austria, '80, [ *80* ], Boxer, three star crimp with light green primer sealant. * 80 * 7.62x51
Austria, '80, [ HP ], Berdan, three star crimp with red primer sealant. II HP 80

http://m14forum.com/ammunition/23464-mil-surplus-ammunition-manufactures-7-62x51mm.html

More to review in the Future...

DI5

 

[Dougboffl]

I was joking.

Dang it,

I just dumped 4,500 rounds into the lake.

 

[botlaudio]

Got a 22" LRB Medium Match with Criterion-made Saco-Lowell chrome moly barrel coming.

Have read good reviews of Hirtenberger, but haven't found as much regarding the jacketing and any effects on barrel/throat wear.

www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x...146-grain-fmj-hirtenberger-surplus-ammo-1970s

Edit: Not sure if the Hirt is actually copper washed. Says it's bimetal, berdan primed.

Will this be increase wear compared to copper ammo?

If you are overly concerned about wear only purchase copper jacket ammo. SG ammo has plenty the new manufacture MEN http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...-147-grain-ammo-made-germany-men-2016-men762a
PPU
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...0-fmj-bt-145-grain-ammo-prvi-partizan-pp768mc
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...n-175-grain-fmj-prvi-partizan-match-ammo-pp32
CBC
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...niper-168-grain-magtech-ammo-brass-boxer-non-

A few hundred rounds of Hirt will not give you a problem.

 

[armscorp]

Howdy Buckeroos,

My two cents worth.

I will shoot copper washed bi-metal ("steel jacket") ammo in my Scout.

But not in my National Match rifles.

Keep yer powder dry,

John

 

[HappyTrails]

Here's what I know, I shoot it in my Standard M1A, NM M1A and CMP M-1 Garand .308 Special without issues of any kind.

I only wish I could afford to buy more of it. Clean burning and accurate.

But, on the other hand, if you do not buy any, there will be all the more left for the rest of us!

I just finished off a 360 round battle pack of the 1983 Hirt and am half way through a 240 round battle pack from 1976. All fantastic! M1A rifle likes it and seems a bit more accurate than Federal XM80.

Only downside is the extractor on my Mauser .308 does not like the rim as well as the Federal brass.

 

[Eagle7840]

If you are overly concerned about wear only purchase copper jacket ammo. SG ammo has plenty the new manufacture MEN http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...-147-grain-ammo-made-germany-men-2016-men762a
PPU
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...0-fmj-bt-145-grain-ammo-prvi-partizan-pp768mc
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...n-175-grain-fmj-prvi-partizan-match-ammo-pp32
CBC
http://www.sgammo.com/product/308-w...niper-168-grain-magtech-ammo-brass-boxer-non-

A few hundred rounds of Hirt will not give you a problem.

That's a heck of a price for the PPU 147gr from SG. We're selling it non-member at SPG for $319.99 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/prod...fmjbt-145-grain-500-rounds-with-can?a=2078136. I brought in 4 cans into the store today to test the waters. Also our web price for the Hirt went up by $8 probably to compensate for the higher cost from the last shipment. I'm leaving our store retail price at $137.99 and hording the 1980's stuff for myself GI2