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Ok everyone, A lot of guys I shoot with tell me I have to have an AR in my safe if SHTF transpires. Hopefully not. If it would I know my M1A would take care of me. My thoughts on this are to get an LE- M4 and stick it in the back of the safe or pick up a 20" bbl. rifle so I might be able to punch paper at some distance. Service Rifle. I would like the lower to say Colt on the side , so what are my options. A new AR or look for an older H-Bar. I put the AR type rifles out of my mind since the early 80's mainly because of the weak round so I'm trying to catch up. Thanks all.
 

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I was in the same boat as you, over many, many years I had no use for a rifle caliber that did not start with 30 but I finally realized that I needed something and it recently came down to cost, you can find and or reload .223 a whole lot cheaper than .308/30.06

As far as Colt there are lots of choices but I have to ask why does it have to say Colt ? there are ton'e of good AR Companies out there like Windam, Spikes, PSA, S&W etc... that make a quality Milspec AR that will provide you with years of trouble free service.
 

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Stag Model 2 shooter here. It doesn't say colt but I trust is just as much as my issues service rifle that does say colt.
 

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Thanks, oh I guess I'm still an odd one that still like Colts and Winchesters. I'm primarily a hunter and after I was issued way back when the 5.56 or .223 and seeing what it wound do on deer size game before and after I had no use for it. Not to say it don't work on critters that walk on their hind legs and the right sercomstances. I've just started in on service rifle match shooting and the AR seams to be taking the day and wanted to try and get a quick up. I guess my budget would be around 1200.00. I guess it wouldn't have to be a Colt but that's my preference. Thanks again. Dan
 

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Build your own

Not sure why it has to say Colt on the side?....but...

Look through some catalogs like Brownell's or Midway USA for starters. You will see how easy it is to build a basic AR15. Also, building it the way you want is more cost effective. Why buy a complete rifle to change parts out and have them laying around? Build what you need.
 

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When it comes to AR15/M4 style rifles there are a lot of good choices. The Colt 6920 is a great choice for a handy, defensive SHTF or just plinking everyday rifle. It can be light and compact, without all the extraordinary junk some people mount on them. The 20" HBAR's can be great tack drivers and serve the function as a rifle in time of need, they are not as light and handy as a 6920/M4 style but will serve the function quite well.
 

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Well maybe I should start this over without my shortcomings. I guess what I'm looking for would be the most accurate service rifle for the buck to start with. Something I won't have to change parts on right away. Something that will shoot better than I can. If that helps . Thanks
 

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I prefer Old School...I have not got into the New Flat top designs, because I wanted something that I don't have to worry about in SHTF Scenarios. I won't have a source pool of available items and arms length. I think the 20" barrel ideology is a good one.
If you can't find A Colt AR15A2 HBAR Like this one:



Perhaps you can find a BFI, XM15E2S like this one: (By the way I would sell this one)

 

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I prefer Old School...I have not got into the New Flat top designs, because I wanted something that I don't have to worry about in SHTF Scenarios. I won't have a source pool of available items and arms length. I think the 20" barrel ideology is a good one.
If you can't find A Colt AR15A2 HBAR Like this one:



Perhaps you can find a BFI, XM15E2S like this one: (By the way I would sell this one)

Straight gospel right there.^cof1
 

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Howdy OP,
I go back to when COLT was virtually the only choice available. There has never been a better time to own an AR15/M16/M4 than right now. The rifles/carbines themselves are very accurate/user friendly, especially the flat top models for ease of mounting optics. We did not have this option in the '60s/'70s but it is very useful now that optics are pretty much the rule among our group as we are now in our 60s/70s. In addition, ammunition technology has changed significantly for the better in the past decade or so: lots of very good choices. Proof of my claim? I took a Colt 16" 6940 carbine to the range to function test/sight in last Thanksgiving: 0.9" (5) shot group with 77gr. SMK OTM based BHA MK 262 MOD 1 and 1.6" (5) shot group with the SSA 5.56MM 70gr. TSX (a commercial equivalent of the 70gr. 5.56MM Optimized Brown Tip cartridge). A 4.5x14x50 Leupold scope & an M4 can were mounted to shoot groups. I chose the 6940 because it has a free floating 1x7 twist barrel & a monolithic one piece upper. But there are MANY other very good choices. My next AR style rifle or upper will almost certainly be a 20" Colt AR15-A4 flat top or a 20" FN FN15 flat top. Would prefer a 20" factory FF style upper. Already have a Colt A2 HBAR but it is pretty much limited for mounting optics. God willing and the creek don't rise, you too will probably get to the point you need optics to keep them tight.

Good luck!

Upgraded A2s: The one on the bottom has an early Colt 6940 16" 1x7 upper on it. The 18" 1x7.7 full heavy SS Krieger on the top is quite capable of headshots with MK 262 or mag length 77gr. SMK AMU loads all the way out to 750yds. in good conditions. I first competed with the then standard 1x12 twist AR15/M16 in the late '70s never dreaming the platform and its ammunition would be developed to this level.

 
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Nothing wrong with going Colt, plus if you ever decide to sell it the resale will be much much higher then a pieced together rifle.
 
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I got my PTAC (Its a palmetto state armory) upper w/ bolt carrier, and the "blem" lower with the Magpul parts on it for $466 OTD with shipping. The blem has no blemishes on it from what I could see. Operates very well and out of the box was shooting about 4 inches high at 100m.
 

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99% of the AR's out there these days are flat tops but you can put on a carry handle.
I keep my AR's simple they just look better that way.
 

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Colt makes fine AR's ,there are many other manufactures that are just as good quality but less expensive. With Colt you are paying more for the name

Rock River, Armalite, DPMS are all fine manufactured AR's at less cost
 

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Colt 6920 or the new AR-15A4.

I own an old green box Colt AR-15A2 Government Model that I treasure just because of its history with me and the fact that it was the closest civilian version to an issue M16A2 ever made.

Now, with the AR-15A4 available, it's not the closest civilian version anymore. The AR-15A4 is. I may have to buy one.
 

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Colt 6920 or the new AR-15A4.

I own an old green box Colt AR-15A2 Government Model that I treasure just because of its history with me and the fact that it was the closest civilian version to an issue M16A2 ever made.

Now, with the AR-15A4 available, it's not the closest civilian version anymore. The AR-15A4 is. I may have to buy one.
I certainly don't need one, but that Colt A4 got my attention.... and I usually don't care much for ARs.

My Colt/Diemaco 6920 is boringly reliable and better than I am.
 

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I was in the same boat as you, over many, many years I had no use for a rifle caliber that did not start with 30 but I finally realized that I needed something and it recently came down to cost, you can find and or reload .223 a whole lot cheaper than .308/30.06
And you can carry a whole lot more 5.56 than 7.62
 

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Colt doesn't really make a competitive target rifle. If you want to shoot Service Rifle, you'd be better served buying a CLE or RRA rifle made for it.
 
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