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Things are about to get nasty.
If you mean American gun owners are about to be given the same treatment, I agree.

If you’re implying American gun owners are about to hit their tipping point and get nasty, naaah. Never happen. If what I’m seeing is an indicator, we are already well on our way to becoming the best armed prisoners in the whole history of civilization…
 

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Why can't people see this coming? Perhaps it's the idea that most people are not involved in the shooting, hunting sports, therefore they don't care one way or the other. Maybe they will pull their heads out of the sand when 2A rights are lost and the Liberals go after First Amendment rights. This is nothing new, just look at Venezuela.
 

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If you mean American gun owners are about to be given the same treatment, I agree.

If you’re implying American gun owners are about to hit their tipping point and get nasty, naaah. Never happen. If what I’m seeing is an indicator, we are already well on our way to becoming the best armed prisoners in the whole history of civilization…
Neither, but to your first point I agree. My concern is that there is always a reason why people are disarmed and what is going on in Canada is, from my perspective, rapid and systematic. The fact that it is happening so fast makes me think there is a time-line being considered and coupled with the fact Traudeau is in Xi's pocket makes it even more concerning. I could be wrong but I think we are in for it. Many people disagree and speak to nuclear deterrent, which, is a valid point; however, my gut is screaming and my intuition is generally spot on.
 

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Why can't people see this coming? Perhaps it's the idea that most people are not involved in the shooting, hunting sports, therefore they don't care one way or the other. Maybe they will pull their heads out of the sand when 2A rights are lost and the Liberals go after First Amendment rights. This is nothing new, just look at Venezuela.
We already lost the first amendment during the summer of Saint Floyd
 

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Unfortunately, many of our fellow citizens are not at all aware of history or events that our Nation has experienced over the centuries we have been in existence. Firearms ownership has been planted in our DNA for a very long time now and it is cherished in many of our States making up America. We all know the reasons for the 2nd Amendment to exist but with latest generation of citizens today have not a clue as to why it exists nor the perils that exist without it in play. In addition, the entire Constitution is under scrutiny by politicians as to why it exists and simple reason for that is they are limited as to how far they can stray from that document without consequences. The Constitution is the very foundation of America, and it is an absolute necessity that the Supreme Court exists to ensure it is existence.
Now, how do we explain the random shootings of innocent citizens in schools, churches, shopping areas and so on and the very root of that serious problem lies in the upbringing of those who do those shootings. Yes, some are due to insanity or mental issues, but I would venture that most are due to the horrid conditions those doing such acts have been exposed to during early childhood days. No experience with an adult, parent, mentor, etc. describing that there are acts that are forbidden in society and shooting and killing another person is definitely against the law of the land as it should be. Not that long ago a mother of a young man who was arrested for robbing a store and beating nearly to death the clerk was told by the police what he had done, and she was arguing he should not be arrested and went on to say, "how is he supposed to get his money??" That question sums up the situation we face today very, very clearly.
 

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Watched the vid also, and agree that it has about zero chance of passing such a broad bill thru the Senate. Its one thing to do on state initiative level, quite another to do on a federal level, especially something so intrusive and after recent SCOTUS rulings that would pretty much preclude it being allowed to stand.
 

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Neither, but to your first point I agree. My concern is that there is always a reason why people are disarmed and what is going on in Canada is, from my perspective, rapid and systematic. The fact that it is happening so fast makes me think there is a time-line being considered and coupled with the fact Traudeau is in Xi's pocket makes it even more concerning. I could be wrong but I think we are in for it. Many people disagree and speak to nuclear deterrent, which, is a valid point; however, my gut is screaming and my intuition is generally spot on.
Canada is exactly like the US. There are liberal elite socialist areas of population ( like the north east and parts of California) the rest of it is just like us. I have friends that moved here from Montreal. They are more hard core conservatives than I am.
 

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Unfortunately, many of our fellow citizens are not at all aware of history or events that our Nation has experienced over the centuries we have been in existence. Firearms ownership has been planted in our DNA for a very long time now and it is cherished in many of our States making up America. We all know the reasons for the 2nd Amendment to exist but with latest generation of citizens today have not a clue as to why it exists nor the perils that exist without it in play. In addition, the entire Constitution is under scrutiny by politicians as to why it exists and simple reason for that is they are limited as to how far they can stray from that document without consequences. The Constitution is the very foundation of America, and it is an absolute necessity that the Supreme Court exists to ensure it is existence.
Now, how do we explain the random shootings of innocent citizens in schools, churches, shopping areas and so on and the very root of that serious problem lies in the upbringing of those who do those shootings. Yes, some are due to insanity or mental issues, but I would venture that most are due to the horrid conditions those doing such acts have been exposed to during early childhood days. No experience with an adult, parent, mentor, etc. describing that there are acts that are forbidden in society and shooting and killing another person is definitely against the law of the land as it should be. Not that long ago a mother of a young man who was arrested for robbing a store and beating nearly to death the clerk was told by the police what he had done, and she was arguing he should not be arrested and went on to say, "how is he supposed to get his money??" That question sums up the situation we face today very, very
Canada is exactly like the US. There are liberal elite socialist areas of population ( like the north east and parts of California) the rest of it is just like us. I have friends that moved here from Montreal. They are more hard core conservatives than I am.
I wasn't disparaging Canada. I'm just concerned there is a lot afoot we cannot yet comprehend and that the disarming of a civilian population that would be devastating to an invading army (similar to how the Norwegians were to the Soviets) is a piece of that puzzle we yet fully comprehend.

But what do I know? I do know I trust Trudeau and his handlers as far as I can throw them.
 

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I have wild hogs on my land, coyotes after my rabbits and deer, throw in a stray bobcat and rogue wild dogs coming thru.
I ain't and can't give up one iota.
Wild hogs have already attacked and led to the death of one of my dogs.
Actually I could use a full auto 30 cal. when a herd comes in. How about it Uncle Sugga?
 

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I wasn't disparaging Canada. I'm just concerned there is a lot afoot we cannot yet comprehend and that the disarming of a civilian population that would be devastating to an invading army (similar to how the Norwegians were to the Soviets) is a piece of that puzzle we yet fully comprehend.

But what do I know? I do know I trust Trudeau and his handlers as far as I can throw them.
Good points!

BTW, the Soviets invaded Finland early in WWII. For anyone who is not familiar with the "Winter War" and enjoys military history, it is an interesting study. Finland had the most brilliant and bad-ass sniper ever, Simo Häyhä. The Soviets called him "The White Death."

The strategy and tactics used by the Finns against overwhelming Soviet superiority has been an ongoing subject of academic military research for nearly 80 decades. They seldom counterattacked, and instead used guerilla attacks and slow, blocking fallbacks to bleed the enemy.
 
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