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Does anyone know if Springfield produced the Bush and Scout models at the same time or did the Scout replace the Bush? Was there a clean cut off of Bush production?

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Does anyone know if Springfield produced the Bush and Scout models at the same time or did the Scout replace the Bush? Was there a clean cut off of Bush production?

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I don't have the Answer, I don't remember the Bush,but it seems the Scout has been around Forever!
 

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A Bush model has an 18" barrel and a solid hand guard.
A Scout has a scope mount on the barrel and a cut out in the hand guard around the mount.
 

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A Bush model has an 18" barrel and a solid hand guard.
A Scout has a scope mount on the barrel and a cut out in the hand guard around the mount.
The bush also had a flash suppressor with cut off bayo lug and the scout has a muzzle brake.

I thought I saw an old ad that had both, I can't remember when the ad was from, early 90's I think.
 

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SA Bush Rifle

The bush rifle has been around much longer than some of you realize. It dates back into the 1980's and was first introduced with a folding stock. With the exception of it's shorter barrel, the bush rifle was otherwise just a standard rifle. The last really nice one I had was sold on TFL for $3000. Scout models came out much later and were distinctive with their barrel mounted scope mount and short barrel. They were inspired by the concept originated by Col. Jeff Cooper.
 

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This might help.

I have all the SAI sales catalogs from the 80s, and most of the 90s.
M1A-A1Assault Rifle (and it was called "Assault" in the catalogs) was first introduced in 1981,and ran thru 1986.
M1A-A1 Bush Rifle was introduced in 1987. and ran thu at least 1995.
 

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I saw a Scout for sale with a 105,*** serial number. My Bush has a 142,*** serial number and was made in October, 2002 according to Springfield.

I didn't realize that Bush and Scout production over lapped each other. Or did this Scout start out as a Bush and then got converted to a Scout? Just curious...
 

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I still have a 1997 SAI Mini Catalog that lists both the Scout and the Bush Model rifles. So they did overlap at least that year. dozier
 

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I've always thought the Scout was a play on the "Scout" popularity generated by the Steyr/Jeff Cooper introduction and marketing. My original Bush had the Beretta folder Circa 1990(?)...
 

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Hope this isn't a hijack of the thread, but can someone tell me what a good price on a Bush rifle in the current market might be? I can't find any for sale on Gunbrokers or the PX; maybe I didn't search right? Nothing came up in a search for Bush Rifle. But I have one from early1994 that's got under 200 rounds thru it, with a mix of USGI and SAI parts. The reciever and barrel are SAI, the trigger, oprod, and bolt are TRW w/ NM sites. What's a fair price to put on it?
 

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I still have a 1997 SAI Mini Catalog that lists both the Scout and the Bush Model rifles. So they did overlap at least that year. dozier
Thanks Dozier, you answered the question.
 

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Hope this isn't a hijack of the thread, but can someone tell me what a good price on a Bush rifle in the current market might be? I can't find any for sale on Gunbrokers or the PX; maybe I didn't search right? Nothing came up in a search for Bush Rifle. But I have one from early1994 that's got under 200 rounds thru it, with a mix of USGI and SAI parts. The reciever and barrel are SAI, the trigger, oprod, and bolt are TRW w/ NM sites. What's a fair price to put on it?
I could not find a "bush" & when I did (here on this site) one member snatched it before I did. Distraught, I bought a loaded with the same setup as the bush you are asking for. The price (paid $1300 for an unfired loaded with 22" stainless NM barrel) and one of the kind members of this forum sold me his extra 18.5" med-weight stainless barrel from the Krieger buy a year back. I'm getting it ready to send to Krieger to install the barrel & muzzle break. Now I'll have a "bush" rifle with TRW parts (bolt, op-rod, trigger group), the SAI reciever & Krieger barrel. I can't wait to shoot it. Should be back by my birthday (end of March).
 

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I could not find a "bush" & when I did (here on this site) one member snatched it before I did. Distraught, I bought a loaded with the same setup as the bush you are asking for. The price (paid $1300 for an unfired loaded with 22" stainless NM barrel) and one of the kind members of this forum sold me his extra 18.5" med-weight stainless barrel from the Krieger buy a year back. I'm getting it ready to send to Krieger to install the barrel & muzzle break. Now I'll have a "bush" rifle with TRW parts (bolt, op-rod, trigger group), the SAI reciever & Krieger barrel. I can't wait to shoot it. Should be back by my birthday (end of March).
Thanks for the insight. I must be doing the searches wrong, cuz they can't possibly rare, per se. I've done variations of "Springfield Bush Rifle" and Springfield 18", etc, and can't get any results. I was thinking around $1500, give or take; is that low...high...?
 

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I looked for 13 months to find my Bush model. Pricing I've seen is $1,300 to $1,650 for people that really want to sell a rifle.
 
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