[Jordan81]

Good morning friends,

So I spent months collecting every minty TRW part, had LRB build me a beautiful M14, including every NM part and modification (excluding NM sights, as I insisted on all TRW) only to find out that the ranges in north Texas don't allow unscoped rifles past the 50 yard range. Not only that, even with perfect vision, I cant see precisely using TRW battle sights. I'm new to the M14 but not the fundamentals of shooting. Should I Sadlak and scope this rifle? I've got a Nightforce ATACR showing up tomorrow which was allotted for an M25 build but I'm considering scoping this one. Anyone else found themselves in this quandry? Any help appreciated, -jordan

 

[nf1e]

I like my optics for sure. With most of todays mounts, move a scope from one rifle to another is not all that difficult. There are many that would love to have your problem.

 

[anthonypd]

here is what I would do: put the scope on quick release rings. Put a basset mount on your M14 so you can go back and forth between it being scoped and with irons. Then you can use the qd rings to put it on your m25.

 

[deuceguy]

I threw this LRB together with TRW parts. Here’s how it shot at 200 yards.

 

[Jarhead504]

No shooting a rifle past 50 YARDS ! without a scope? Find a different range run by people with sense.

Jarhead

 

[Jordan81]

Thanks guys, lots of good suggestions here.

 

[Jordan81]

If I’m going scoped, does anyone have any info about the Nightforce unimount insofar as it impeding ejection?

 

[unkola]

Like Mr.Jarhead said, find another range. They're requirement is ridiculous!! I have Nightforce scope and rings, but use a Basset low mount. -Lloyd 🍻

 

[Jordan81]

Like Mr.Jarhead said, find another range. They're requirement is ridiculous!! -Lloyd 🍻

I’m w ya on that

 

[edgartwib]

...only to find out that the ranges in north Texas don't allow unscoped rifles past the 50 yard range. Not only that, even with perfect vision, I cant see precisely using TRW battle sights.

Maybe ask to talk the man in charge of the range, Chief Range Officier, or whatever they call the top dog at your range. Shoot your LRB with him and plead your case. Maybe mention CMP hipower matches go out to 200yds with iron sights and you want to practice... I'm my experience opening a tactful dialog helps immensely.
Keep us informed.
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[TXPI]

Good morning friends,

So I spent months collecting every minty TRW part, had LRB build me a beautiful M14, including every NM part and modification (excluding NM sights, as I insisted on all TRW) only to find out that the ranges in north Texas don't allow unscoped rifles past the 50 yard range. Not only that, even with perfect vision, I cant see precisely using TRW battle sights. I'm new to the M14 but not the fundamentals of shooting. Should I Sadlak and scope this rifle? I've got a Nightforce ATACR showing up tomorrow which was allotted for an M25 build but I'm considering scoping this one. Anyone else found themselves in this quandry? Any help appreciated, -jordan

Not true, most of them will. Go to ETTS in Waxahachie/Maypearl. I believe their ranges go out to 1600 yards

 

[Clark]

No shooting a rifle past 50 YARDS ! without a scope? Find a different range run by people with sense.

Jarhead

That's a new one for me. I am a member of a FUDD range that doesn't allow semi-automatics but has good wings in the clubhouse restaurant and another that doesn't care what you shoot as long as the projectile doesn't explode down range. But not shooting past 50 yards without a scope?? That's a real prize winner.

 

[XM25Ren]

Yes sir, do like a few suggest find another range, one which will allow you to stretch your iron sight legs…fifty yards why bother!

MORE THAN A HOBBY, A PASSION!
REN

 

[rickgman]

Personally while I appreciate the advantages offered by optics, I think M14 type rifles are best with iron sights. I wholeheartedly agree with those who have already stated that you need to find another range. I have never heard of such nonsense before. Some ranges here are hesitant to allow firing at 600 yds. without a good ballistic table for the specific weapon and ammo but that is an entirely different situation.

What do you mean when you say that you “can’t see precisely with the TRW battle sights”? When using iron sights, you need to focus on the front sight and the target will appear somewhat fuzzy but that is normal. You can still shoot precisely when the target is slightly out of focus.

 

[Jordan81]

Personally while I appreciate the advantages offered by optics, I think M14 type rifles are best with iron sights. I wholeheartedly agree with those who have already stated that you need to find another range. I have never heard of such nonsense before. Some ranges here are hesitant to allow firing at 600 yds. without a good ballistic table for the specific weapon and ammo but that is an entirely different situation.

What do you mean when you say that you “can’t see precisely with the TRW battle sights”? When using iron sights, you need to focus on the front sight and the target will appear somewhat fuzzy but that is normal. You can still shoot precisely when the target is slightly out of focus.

I’m not sure how to explain but but it’s almost like I need a finer front sight post?

 

[smoothy8500]

I cant see precisely using TRW battle sights.

Considering once a day we see a post here about difficulty with irons or "needing a scope suggestion", maybe these public ranges with restrictions are actually being proactive....

 

[TXPI]

I’m not sure how to explain but but it’s almost like I need a finer front sight post?

Try a national match front sight, that might help

 

[Jordan81]

Considering once a day we see a post here about difficulty with irons or "needing a scope suggestion", maybe these public ranges with restrictions are actually being proactive....

Ouch haha

 

[smoothy8500]

After a certain age, we need a little corrective vision to see up close. That includes the M14 front sight. Generally, +.50 brings the FS into focus a little better and we can see the target well enough.

My distance vision for example is + 1.75, so I have some shooting glasses made to +2.25 and it helps tremendously.

 

[KurtC]

If you have a hooded rear sight, there are lenses that can be inserted into it to make the front sight clearer. I use a set made by Bob Jones.