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Hi Guys,
I've been searching and reading everything I can on the forum for a while now as well as other places and have zero'd in on building an M25 replica.

I've been collecting USGI parts for a month or so and have (or will have) pretty much most of the critical parts now - mostly TRW.

I'm looking for the experts to check me out on my plan and provide any words of wisdom. Here's what I'm looking at building:

LRB lugged receiver
Kreiger Heavy barrel
Smith enterprises scope mount
Leipold M3 scope
McMillian M3A stock with desert camo
Unitized gas system and other NM mods
All USGI TRW parts

This will not be a field rifle but rather is intended as a high quality piece that get's to go to the range occassionally.

What am I missing?
It's been suggested I go with Kreiger's new medium contour barrel - any thoughts?

Thanks,
Ron
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If you want an accurate copy of the M25 you need a Brookfield Precision Scope Mount, Spring Guide, Gas Piston and a Barnett barrel. Optional is the Brookfield Stock Liner, they were built with and without it.

Otherwise what you build will not resemble an M25.
 

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Looks like he may have confused the nomenclature and wants a USMC DMR and not an M25. BTW, the USMC uses a Krieger medium weight barrel in a specific contour. Krieger now has these available for a decent price.
 

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Bill Ricca said:
If you want an accurate copy of the M25 you need a Brookfield Precision Scope Mount, Spring Guide, Gas Piston and a Barnett barrel. Optional is the Brookfield Stock Liner, they were built with and without it.

Otherwise what you build will not resemble an M25.
None of these items are readily available which is why I referred to the rifle I want to build as a "replica". I want to get as close as possible though

It's my understanding that the Smith Enterprise mount is the same design as the BPT mount and in use by the Marines as we speak as a mil-spec replacement part for the BPT mount . The new Sadlak mount, except for being titanium, is supposed to also be nearly a replica.

The Sadlak TiN coated gas piston seems like the equivalent of the BPT gas piston. Not sure what to do about the spring guide.

According to Different's "M14 Rifle History and Guide" document and a couple of other sources I've found, the M25 uses a Krieger heavy barrel. According to these sources it was the XM-25 that used a medium weight barrel (unspecified manufacturer - Barnett?). Also these same sources also say the M25 does not use a steel liner (however the XM25 did) and it uses McMillian stocks. According to Ron Smith both the M2A and M3A stocks are commonly used.

Of course, almost none of these rifles that we assemble can be truly called m-14's, m-21's, xm-25's, or m-25's because they do not use USGI select fire receivers . Even more importantly they are not assembled by the original armory that the military used so at best they can be called "replicas" even if they have 100% the same parts as the military version.

I'm just looking to get as close as I can.

Thanks!
Ron
 

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That's all and well and you can call it what you want BUT unless it has the Brookfield parts in it- its not an M25. Hell for that matter I can take my Rem 700PSS with a McMillan HTG stock and call it an M40A1 even though it doesnt have most of the components that the USMC used in their rifles. The parts list that you posted from the Krieger barrel, Smith mount and Leupold scope is alot closer to a DMR than an M25 (including the scope). Of course everything is a clone or replica but if you can find all of the parts to build the clone or replica and the only thing on it to diffrentiate the real deal and the clone is the civillian legal receiver and who built it, then get it as close as possible if funds allow. Brookfield parts are out there- they are just scarce. Even if you get just the scope mount, that will be the only thing visible for an M25- everything else is on the inside and nobody will know except you.
I do know of a source though for the B&L (actual B&L not Bushnell) Tactical 10x though that most M25's I've seen had on it- I'd have to check and see if my buddy still has it or not though if you are interested.
 

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Lawdog,

I think you and I are saying the same thing.

I'd be interested in your friends scope. If you would please send me the info via PM.

Any ideas where to look for a Brookfield scope mount besides the usual classifieds?

BTW, thanks for the info - this is the kind of thing I'm looking for.

Thanks,
Ron
 

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I have the Brookfield Spring Guide, if you decide to replicate the M25. The Scope Mount and Gas Piston are sometimes on eBay.

What Lawdog posted is correct. By definition an M25 has those three Brookfield items as being the design specification. If those three are not included, it isn't an M25.
 
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