Boyd's Stocks

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Theophorus

Discussion Starter · Feb 25, 2004

Hey guys,
Can anyone tell me about the quality of Boyd's stocks compared to other stocks? Why do some stocks need bedding and others not? In your opinions what is the best stock out there?

Thanks, Theo

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Quagmire

· #2 · Feb 25, 2004

The Boyd's M1A stocks are OK. I ordered one recently to see what they were like.

They're much thicker & not contoured the same as a USGI stock, but then again they don't have that gaping selector cut out either.

I've got a Wenig M1A stock on order & hope to have it in the next week or two. From what I've read, if you want a new USGI contour M1A stock then they are the best around. No personal experience on that (yet), it's just what I've read here on the net.

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dighawaii

· #3 · Feb 26, 2004

Aloha Theophorus:

Usually "Match" type stocks do not have metal stock liners. The stocks are usually heavier and much thicker than standard USGI stocks. Stock liners were used to strengthen a USGI stock and to aid in providing a recoil lug for the receiver.

Since the Match stocks are thicker and do not have stock liners, then those stocks should be bedded. If not, the receiver leg will recoil against plain wood which is NOT good. Bedding will also allow the builder to create a receiver specific shell for the receiver to sit on and recoil against. The bedding will also prevent any lateral side to side movement as well as preventing the receiver area from compressing over time.

This is just general information but I think that should basically cover your question, if additional information is needed on this, it will not be a problem to provide it.

Aloha,

Tom O.

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Milo Maker

· #4 · Feb 26, 2004

Boyds stocks

Theophorus, I ordered a stock from Boyds for a very old shotgun, I send the original to them which was almost rotted from the conditions the shotgun had been in and they sent back a wonderful copy of the stock and forearm at what I thought was a very reasonable price.

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Theophorus

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 26, 2004

Wow, thanks alot guys. That was the information I was looking for. Since I can't afford a McMillan at the moment I am looking for a nice alternative. I don't like the "thin" feel of the SA synthetic stocks so a thicker one would be nice.

Thanks again, Theo.

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Zorak

· #6 · Oct 23, 2006

dighawaii said:
Aloha Theophorus:

Usually "Match" type stocks do not have metal stock liners. The stocks are usually heavier and much thicker than standard USGI stocks. Stock liners were used to strengthen a USGI stock and to aid in providing a recoil lug for the receiver.

Since the Match stocks are thicker and do not have stock liners, then those stocks should be bedded. If not, the receiver leg will recoil against plain wood which is NOT good. Bedding will also allow the builder to create a receiver specific shell for the receiver to sit on and recoil against. The bedding will also prevent any lateral side to side movement as well as preventing the receiver area from compressing over time.

Tom O.

A very old thread I know, but I am curious: Which of these two set ups is most field-durable? Which will take more rounds over it's lifetime? A thick national match stock that is glass bedded, or a think stokc with a metal liner?

thanks Z

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dighawaii

· #7 · Oct 23, 2006

Aloha Zorak,

It's amazing that these threads are still around... as for the question... I am assuming that "field durable" would be a rifle/stock that is used afield, exposed to the environment, possibly requiring (maybe sometimes frequent) cleaning/maintenance, and likely to get banged around.

If your idea is similar to what I thought you might be thinking, then the stock without bedding would be a better choice, IMHO. A stock with a stock liner would allow the rifle to be readily field stripped if needed for repairs or maintenance. A bedded rifle may also work but would require much more care in handling in the field than.

As for which would "take more rounds over its lifetime", its my guess and would think that the stock with a stock liner would be more durable without "owner attention" over the lifetime of a rifle. If a stock is bedded, there is always the potential for the bedding to be damaged "over a lifetime of shooting" and thus, requiring attention, while a stock with a stock liner would probably not require any special notice unless something majorly broke. Again, I make assumptions for what I think you are getting at.

This is not to say that a bedded rifle is not durable and/or dependable, but within the context of the questions, I think a stock with a stock liner may make more sense.

I hope this of some help.

Aloha,

Tom O.

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Zorak

· #8 · Oct 24, 2006

Mahalo!

Any idea on the accuracy difference between bedded vs drop in?

How exactly does bedding work, and why would it make it make it more work to clean, service, etc.?

The only rifle I've ever used was issue m-16, so I have no idea how bedding etc works. I can say those I am quite fanatical about cleaning and maintainance. Its a machine gunner thing....

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drx

· #9 · Oct 24, 2006

Zorak said:
Mahalo!

Any idea on the accuracy difference between bedded vs drop in?

How exactly does bedding work, and why would it make it make it more work to clean, service, etc.?

The only rifle I've ever used was issue m-16, so I have no idea how bedding etc works. I can say those I am quite fanatical about cleaning and maintainance. Its a machine gunner thing....

You must take care when disassembling the rifle for cleaning because you can damage the bedding. I believe with most bedded match rifles they recommend disassembling to that point (barrelled receiver removed from stock) only once a shooting season. This would be unacceptable for a field rifle.

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Darkside

· #10 · Oct 24, 2006

a McMillian type stock increases the accuracy because the receiver is bedded into the stock, consistant pressure across the receiver. Wood tends to grow and shrink with the envirnoment which can affect accuracy. you can pretty much clean an M-14 without taking off the stock, unless your in the rain or Iraq?

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Zorak

· #11 · Oct 24, 2006

Darkside said:
a McMillian type stock increases the accuracy because the receiver is bedded into the stock, consistant pressure across the receiver. Wood tends to grow and shrink with the envirnoment which can affect accuracy. you can pretty much clean an M-14 without taking off the stock, unless your in the rain or Iraq?

the rain...a lot

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