[Badger5th]

I took a couple of friends from work shooting today. Everything from my 10/22 up to my M1A. I picked up a couple of bulk packs of Winchester 36 grain HV stuff about four years ago at the height of the ammo panic. Brought one box to the shooting session today to get rid of some of my old stock. Always stored indoors in a conditioned and heated environment.

Every third or four round was jamming. Happened with four different magazines. The 10/22 eats anything CCI like a champ from Std velocity to stingers.

Any else have bad experience with this stuff?

Regards,
Badger

 

[POLACK]

ever cleaned it?

 

[Badger5th]

ever cleaned it?

The rifle was clean. The ammo was new in sealed box but about 4 years old. Dry conditioned indoor environment.

 

[JEFFJP_N_JJ]

The rifle was clean. The ammo was new in sealed box but about 4 years old. Dry conditioned indoor environment.

Was out this past November with a friend out deer hunting and he brought his grandkids out to teach them some shooting skills; His old ammo and his rifle kept jamming as well until I got my WD-40 and hosed it down some...

 

[Badger5th]

Was out this past November with a friend out deer hunting and he brought his grandkids out to teach them some shooting skills; His old ammo and his rifle kept jamming as well until I got my WD-40 and hosed it down some...

The rifle was cleaned and oiled prior to shooting. It eats up CCI stuff perfectly. I wanted to get rid of some other stuff that was hanging around for years.

 

[xXRiflemanXx]

When you say jammed what do you mean? Was the round failing to feed, eject, was it stove piping, were the rounds sticking the nose into the top of the receiver? A little more detail might help in solving your issues.

 

[SA762]

I have the some of that exact same ammo, bought it around the same time you did. In my Ruger 10/22 it runs like crap, constant problems. Misfires, double feeds, you name it.
When i shoot it through my Ruger single six or Henry rifle no problems.
I keep CCI for my 10/22 as it cycles fine.

 

[Badger5th]

When you say jammed what do you mean? Was the round failing to feed, eject, was it stove piping, were the rounds sticking the nose into the top of the receiver? A little more detail might help in solving your issues.

Mainly was failure to feed. The Ammo seemed underpowered. May not have had enough bolt stroke to pick up the next round.

 

[Wasted ammo]

Must have been a bad lot, I have had good luck and accuracy with that ammo. Even in semi auto pistols. No it isn't CCI mini mag but for the money I buy it when it's available.

 

[oseto317]

I'm with Wasted ammo on this one. My guess is back then QC on the production line was secondary to getting product out the door.

 

[Wayne M]

Winchester had some recalls on 22 around the time frame you got your ammo. Do a search then check the codes to see if your's is listed.

 

[M1A's r BEST]

.22's are "funny" about ammo.

One rifle to the next will "like" different ammo in regards to functioning and accuracy.

People curse Remington Thunderbolts. My Ruger Mk1 5.5" and my Winchester M52B love it. People curse Remington Golden Bullets. My little AR15 with the .22 conversion kit has put 10 rounds into a dime sized hole at 25 meters.

You have to find what works and what gives you good groups and then buy that ammo and shoot it.

 

[Badger5th]

.22's are "funny" about ammo.

One rifle to the next will "like" different ammo in regards to functioning and accuracy.

People curse Remington Thunderbolts. My Ruger Mk1 5.5" and my Winchester M52B love it. People curse Remington Golden Bullets. My little AR15 with the .22 conversion kit has put 10 rounds into a dime sized hole at 25 meters.

You have to find what works and what gives you good groups and then buy that ammo and shoot it.

I know CCI's are flawless in my 10/22 and my SR22 pistol. I was just trying to get rid of some of my other stuff that I picked up when available during the ammo scare some years back. I'm saving my CCI's for serious practice and some Appleseed shoots I will be doing this year.

Regards,
Badger

 

[Badger5th]

Winchester had some recalls on 22 around the time frame you got your ammo. Do a search then check the codes to see if your's is listed.

I'll check the lot number out of curiosity. I suspect it's years too late to send it back.

Regards,
Badger

 

[Instructor]

It could well be "bad ammo," but 22's have a bad habit of producing a ring of sort with either lead or wax just in front of chamber at times and even though it does not seem to bother one brand or the other there is that one brand that causes problems. I am not a fan of over cleaning a 22, but a good brush scrubbing may resolve the problem. I shoot a 40X and 52B match type rifles and the few times I decide to do such a cleaning job I find that it takes some half a box or so to gain back the accuracy prior to cleaning. Some say equivalent rounds as to barrel length, mine takes more than that. Just a suggestion.

 

[Guest]

I'll check the lot number out of curiosity. I suspect it's years too late to send it back.

Regards,
Badger

Sad to hear, as I have a few boxes of that same ammo that mysteriously was sitting on the shelf in the middle of the day at Walmarx last year, I'm curious as well and hate to think it may not be up to snuff, so let us know what you find. 22LR is about the finickiest ammo there is, I can get great results with say Federal Champion, then I buy more of the same and the lot or manufacture changes, and it's jam city all the way in 2 different rifles, I've seen this across a few major brands, sometimes it's great, something changes and it goes to crap, this particular Winchester 555 pack used to be a solid performer for me. And I don't doubt increased production during the drought hurt QC.

Don't fret, Winchester will take it back regardless of age if there's a real problem, I had 650 rounds of 45acp in deep storage for quite a number of years, when I got around to shooting it I discovered a lot of case splits, so I decided "What the heck" and tried it anyway by going to their site and submitting an ammo claim, the process is lengthy, but, they called me, agreed to provide a prepaid UPS shipping label for return & QC inspection, then, after another round of waiting they sent me a generous check for $312, which paid for a new case of S&B with money to spare!

 

[M1AFL]

Look at the nose of the newer bullets compared to the older ones. Recent (last 3-4 years) purchases of CCI 40 grain .22 LR Standard Velocity ammo have exhibited the same problem for me across the board.

It looks like they might have changed the ogive shape on the nose of the bullet. The rounds continuously fail to feed in both my Ruger 10/22 and Ruger Target pistol. It also would not feed in a friend's Colt Woodsman Pistol. All three weapons were clean as a whistle and fired fine with Hi Velocity rounds from different manufacturers.

When I put the rounds in a bolt action rifle, zero problems.

IMHO, maybe they changed the shape of the bullet to save lead (read money) during the last panic period. Maybe Standard Velocity rounds are not longer that, who knows?

 

[TRW1964]

If possible I would recommend trying the ammo in a different gun before righting it off as bad ammo. Rimfire rifles can be every finicky when it comes to ammo. My 10/22 eats everything on the plate while my Kimber is the fussiest.22 I've ever shot.

 

[Thedutchman]

Ammo is to light in weight and charge. Save it for the lever guns/bolt guns

 

[xXRiflemanXx]

Mainly was failure to feed. The Ammo seemed underpowered. May not have had enough bolt stroke to pick up the next round.

Yeah could be under powered ammo. Generally the bolt won't pick up a round unless it goes far enough the rear to get behind the rim of the cartridge. If it's short stroking the shell it can push it out of the mag a bit till it jams up the action. You say your rifle is clean so likely it's not getting gummed up and you just are not getting enough umph to cycle. If that's the case careful of squibs , sounds like your ammo is borderline and I would use it for pistol plinking.