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I completely agree to a point, & I feel it's fielding to replace such drastically different weapons systems would have caused any platform to miss expectations. At least IMHO.
When i consider a "Do it All" rifle, I understand that my "It All" will differ drastically from the military's needs. I don't need a weapon primarily focused on combat, as much a weapon that can take large game, possibly through thick brush or at distance & if need be, be pressed into defense.
The average Joe isn't going to be in a gun fight like we tend to imagine though, at least not for too long.

Understand I'm saying "average Joe" on purpose. I understand those with experience having boomsticks pointed at them may have a different approach to violent encounters than your average internet operator, but the main goal should be breaking contact, not elongating one's exposure to airborne hot lead.
In other words, very well-rounded, but not particularly razor sharp on any given edge.
 

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In other words, very well-rounded, but not particularly razor sharp on any given edge.
A real "Jack of all trades, master of none". Specialized gear & roles is for people with larger groups & prepping communities. I, unfortunately, am not currently equipped in such a way.
 

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With the exception of the weight of the shells, a pump shotgun in 12 would probably be it for me. Can take small game up to large animals and be used as self defense as well. Such a variety of ammo from #6 for squirrels and rabbits, buckshot for deer and self defense and slugs for large animals. I guess that and my Ruger 10/22 would be the ones I would want. Just hope I never have to decide what to take!
 

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I think of mine as "general purpose." It's set up to do the things that I am most likely to need a rifle to do. I also think of it as "modernized battle rifle." I upgraded mine with an E2 stock, modern sling, and an optics mount, because for me these offer real advantages over the original configuration. The rest is "USGI spec," or as close to it as a civilian clone built in 2014 can be. It works well for me. It's accurate enough, it's reliable, it handles well, it's reasonably fast on target (it's a 12 pound rifle with a 22" barrel), and it's still light enough to carry reasonably. It's not tacti-cool and it's not going to win 3 Gun matches, but I never feel under-gunned with it.
 

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I think of mine as "general purpose." It's set up to do the things that I am most likely to need a rifle to do. I also think of it as "modernized battle rifle." I upgraded mine with an E2 stock, modern sling, and an optics mount, because for me these offer real advantages over the original configuration. The rest is "USGI spec," or as close to it as a civilian clone built in 2014 can be. It works well for me. It's accurate enough, it's reliable, it handles well, it's reasonably fast on target (it's a 12 pound rifle with a 22" barrel), and it's still light enough to carry reasonably. It's not tacti-cool and it's not going to win 3 Gun matches, but I never feel under-gunned with it.
DetroitMan, you nailed it, man! Trying to make the M1A/M14 into a 3-Gun isn't the point here. Like you said, it's to make it applicable for the "most likely" uses. I don't see the benefit of AR'ing an M1A, that's not it's purpose, in my eyes.
 

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I don't think of my M1A as general purpose, and I wouldn't want to carry it through the woods. It was built as a bench rifle and performs like one, but for a general purpose thing I'd certainly lean towards the AR. Easier to break down, service, more likely that I'll share ammo/mags with folks with me since more people have ARs.
 

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+1 on the OPs list plus I would add ...

It's just the most charismatic looking rifle of all time ;-)
 

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Before Biden, Obama, Y2K, or even Clinton, we had George Bush1. The globalist ex-CIA snake that signed the Executive Order called "The Assault Rifle Moratorium" which effectively banned 'assault weapons'. It was then I realized this whole thing might be falling apart about any day.
Not a firearm slouch even then, I did on-range and off-range research to determine what my go-to gun was gonna be. Young family; young wife; big world.
I came to the realization that comparing MY needs with the needs of the military was silly and pointless. I had no Medivac, no replacements, no motor pool, no logistical support, no orders to follow, no mission to complete, and I could wear any shirt I wanted.
If .30-30 or .243 or .44-70 was to my liking, it did not matter (and still does not): my supplies were my supplies and that was all i could count on forever.
After all that, I came to rest on the M14 (okay M1A - I still cringe at using a Springfield trade name). The caliber was right. The form and performance was right. Easier mag change than a FAL. Better handling than HK. At the time, lots and LOTS of ammo was available. On and on.
Many thousands of rounds later, it's still my go-to, but more in a romantic sense than practical [sense]. I'm an old guy now, not the tight, nimble, sharp-eyed man I once was. The AR10 is singing the Siren song and even that might be wishful thinking over something smaller yet.
Do it all again starting today? Maybe not. Learning all the ins and outs (including bedding and trigger job) of the M14 is expensive and immersive. Sure, it'll shoot hundreds of yards, but learning to put that bullet exactly where you want it at those ranges, near and far, is time consuming and, today, expensive. A full load of rifle and, say 5 mags, is a significant hump. Adding scope and goodies adds up fast.
If I wasn't already invested eyeball deep, I might consider alternatives.
To the OP: you want every advantage you can get. Cheat if you can. You want the edge against every critter on any number of legs. When everyone else is shooting an AR, the M14 gives you that edge. You're not being ordered to clear a building or patrol a street or provide escort. You're protecting a family and holding off hostiles and maybe dropping an animal.
Much has been made of the 6.5 Creedmore. That might be where I would go today.
 

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For me it was easy. In New York State I can’t own a free mans AR15 (or AR10 for that matter). I could legally purchase a NY compliant M1A. The decision to change up my semi auto self defense rifle was made for me. It is what it is and I’m not looking back.
Bonus was that it matched the caliber on my R700 LRPR as well. Found a load that can work in both so I’m good at 15 yards and 600 plus yards. Under 15 it’s a 12 gauge.
I’m still young enough to haul it. When I can’t then it’s a 10/22 and hopefully a big strong son in law!
 

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Great thread! I'm in the People's Republic of Kalifornia. Now retired, I used the Mini-14 (.223) as a service rifle in the Dept of Corrections. It was, and remains, a good functional rifle, IMHO. Well, I was impressed by the action, and made the decision to buy one. Then, again considered the design, and bought an M1A in 7.62 x 51. So, I have those two centerfire rifles and a rimfire Ruger 10-22. All good functional weapons, but different ranges of usage. When I escape this state of insanity I just might acquire an AR-15. Seems like a rifle that can be modified and adopted for different calibers, etc., and it has proven to be highly popular, for some really good reasons. Defend your 2nd! By the way, I also succumbed to a fascination for the Savage 99 lever-action in 300 Savage. It's a cool old rifle; love it too!
 

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When asked why I sold my AR & got an M1A, I can't help but consider that my M1A is better suited to a variety of tasks then any of the AR's I've bought. I currently live in AZ, but was raised in the Rockies on venison, bear & beef. Yeah, my rifle isn't the fanciest, fastest shooting, lightest or most tacticool, but for me it doesn't need to be that. I can use it to confidently take an Elk outside Glenrock, or a deer in the Uinta's. If need be, I can defend a family farm in Idaho or send a coyote packing (in pieces) out here in AZ. I do find myself ogling the latest lead slinging device every now & then, but truth be told, I just can't justify spending the kind of money I'd want to on an AR, when I don't figure on being taking down zombies or rambling horses of raiders.

For me, it is as good a "Do it All" rifle as I can get.
How do you break yours down? Is it more just for precision, defending the land, hunting maybe?
I gotta agree on the 1A as the do all rifle. I’ll keep my AR, but I like the power of my 1A, slower recovery or not, what it hits, it destroys.
Myself, I’m just partial to all of the M’s, whether a carbine, a Garand or a 14 or 1A, they all suit me just fine. Maybe being raised by a WW2 veteran had a bit to do with my affinity for those weapons. Or maybe it was the weekly shows like Rat Patrol, but whatever the reason, tried and true, all the weapons used by our military have a useful place in my old mind.
Carry on y’all, and stay safe.
 

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i have a reasonable priced all around rifle i am about to sell

23" 6.5 creedmoor rem varmint contour threaded 5/8x24 on a 700 ltr stock/action, tuned trigger at 1.5lbs. also comes with the factory 308 barrel. rifle weighs just over 8lbs with creedmoor and 7.5lbs with factory barrel.

this rifle is light enough to hunt
factory ammo available and cheap
suppressor/brake ready
heavy enough to shoot matches with
its 700 action so if you need dbm just buy chassis of your liking and you will be ready to rock.

even if you don't want mine think about some of those details for your build. i think apa has a rifle called the "do it all" that is similar
 

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Seems to me one well placed 175 gn bullet can be as effective or more so than 3 55 gn bunny bullets, from an AR. May just be my Marine training, but if I have to shoot something, I want it to stay down. Not talking about punching holes in paper here. The crap thought that more 5.56 ammo can be carried never stood up to the smell test and didn't make a whole lot of sense. Used to think it comical when Army dudes would come into our em club in Vietnam and blab about how many mags they had " dumped " that day. When asked how many hits were on target , the answer was , who knows we never looked for a target, really.
 

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Let's see....Do it all..
Maybe if there was a platform that allowed interchangeability. Maybe just pop a couple of pins and insert an assembly for the purpose at hand. Maybe something that could fire .22 to .50? As in love with the M14 platform as I/we are, if there was such a rifle as I described I'd have to give it my vote for the do it all.
 

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The only weapon I would trust if I couldn't have my M14 would be an AK47. At least the thing wont jam unlike the mattel toy.
 

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My only gripe against my M1a is the weight. I purchased a standard loaded M1A (1999) from a friends family (he passed away). It came with USGI parts. I sent it to Springfield Armory for a special upgrade (offered in the original paperwork). I had it upgraded to super-match specs (Krieger barrel, Mk4 scope mount, glass bed in a large walnut stock). Now with a loaded 20 round clip it weighs at or over 12lbs. My AR is much less...
 
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